Talk:Indigenous cuisine of the Americas

Tumbleweed needs disambiguation

I tagged the link in this article to tumbleweed with {{dn}} because "tumbleweed" can refer to any one of several plants, most of those plants are not edible, and some are not native to North America. See Tumbleweed (disambiguation). --Una Smith (talk) 14:59, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Article needs more references and cleanup

Added tag {{Multiple issues|refimprove=May 2010|cleanup=May 2010}} 96.41.164.58 (talk) 00:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Requested merge 17 September 2017

Country food → Native American cuisine – Kintetsubuffalo suggested the merger of Native American cuisine and Country food (See this edit).

Support since the content in Country food will easily fit under the subscetion "Native American cuisine of North America" of this article. --Maumivi (talk) 11:20, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I suggested that Country food be merged into this article, so it should be Country food → Native American cuisine.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

My bad! I edited the order and thanks for letting me know. It would be great if you make a discussion page in the talk page of the article when you suggest a merger next time. --Maumivi (talk) 05:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done

Vomit-inducing drink?

I remember once as a kid I went to a museum in Florida where they described the various ritual teas people drank that forced them to vomit and perhaps induced visions (memory isn't clear on that part). This describes the black drink well, and is likely the same thign. I never really saw a drink that you couldn't keep down as food. It was meant to be consumed, but not for the sake of being food. If it doesn't stay in the stomach because of its toxicity, and the intention is to expel it from the body by the mouth, can it really be called food? I'm not so sure it should be in here. It's a drug taken religiously/spiritually, not food.Wacape (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Content/context removal?

Hey, Bohemian Baltimore, I see a series of edits here and at Louis Trevino and Vincent Medina, it looks like you're arguing these guys aren't native American and they shouldn't be calling their food indigenous because the tribe isn't federally recognized? Valereee (talk) 12:02, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@User:Valereee Hi, thanks for asking for clarification. There are hundreds of groups, often non-profit organizations, that claim to be Native American tribes or that call themselves Native American heritage groups. There is no Ohlone tribe recognized by the federal government or even by the California government. There are no state-recognized tribes in California. These are individuals who belong to non-profits or other groups. They can't be called "Native American" or "Ohlone" without clarification. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:16, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Bohemian Baltimore, is that how the RS are referring to them -- 'self-identifies as Ohlone' or whatever? (Sorry for being lazy, just figured you probably actually know the answer.) Valereee (talk) 12:23, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Got less lazy. :D NYT is just calling them Ohlone? Valereee (talk) 12:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Among those leading the way are Medina, of the ‌Chochenyo Ohlones from the East Bay, and the cafe’s co-founder, Louis ‌Trevino, 31, of the Rumsen Ohlones, ‌a group from Monterey County. Valereee (talk) 12:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Also says In 1925, the influential anthropologist Alfred Louis Kroeber, who led the museum for 38 years, declared the Ohlone people “extinct,” which two years later resulted in a loss of federal tribal recognition and rights to the land base. So they were at one time recognized...I'm a little uncomfortable with this. Valereee (talk) 12:40, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I have reverted User:Bohemian Baltimore's edits to Vincent Medina and thoroughly explained my reasoning here. I now see that they have been making similar edits here and elsewhere. I believe many of them should be reverted as well, for similar reasons. Blackberryrose (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I think if RS are calling them Ohlone/Native American, and they're calling themselves that, for us to say they "self-identify" as that because the tribes aren't federally recognized is getting pretty close to original research. Valereee (talk) 11:11, 13 August 2023 (UTC)