Talk:Museum of Flight

Requested merger

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the merge. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The consensus was to move - BillCJ 05:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC) City of Everett → Museum of Flight

(See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for detailes on performing meregers.)

• Both articles are stubs, and could use expansion, so this is a start. The pics gallery is not needed, as these pics are on the 747 Commons page. City of Everett not notable enough for own page, and is only linked to this page and Boeing 747. - BillCJ 17:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

Survey - Support votes

• Support - BillCJ 17:45, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
• Support - Myasuda 19:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
• Support - If there was enough material for a real article on this historic aircraft, I'd say leave it, but it doesn't seem to really justify it at this point. Akradecki 20:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Survey - Oppose votes

• Oppose -

Decision

The consensus was to move. Done. - BillCJ 05:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Bad Move

City of Everett should not redirect here; instead, it should be an article about a whaleback steam ship which was America's first in the Suez Canal, and to circumnavigate Earth. I can't see that the 'first flightworthy Boeing 747' is quite as significant. BTW, the article states the airplane was named after the city, but I suggest it is more likely she was named after the ship. Eaglizard 21:29, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

And what was the ship named after? -- 12.116.162.162 20:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Why is it more likely that it was named after a boat, instead of after a city which contains the assembly plant for the airplane? -- 12.116.162.162 20:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The issue is currently moot, as there doesn't appear to be an article on the City of Everett ship. However, should one be created, with proper verifiable sources, City of Everett (ship) should be a suitable name. I'm sure Boeing or the Museum of Flight would be happy to provide sources on what the first 747 was named after, should we need them. - BillCJ 23:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

(copy of what I posted on Eaglizard's talk page) Regarding your comments about the redirect...if you're willing to write an article about the ship, you are welcome to write it. The name of the article would properly be, though, "SS City of Everett" with the possible addition of the year of launch in parenteses. If this is written, the redirect page can become a dab page. Please note, though, that it is somewhat bad form to come out and say, in an irritated sort of way, that there "should be an article" and expect someone else to write it. Don't complain about the output of a volunteer project if you're not willing to pitch in and volunteer yourself. The 747 was built in Everett, which is why it was named that, the plane had no connection to the ship. As for "significance", the first 747, a kind of airplane which launched major changes in air travel and became iconic, is quite a bit more significant than a steamship from the distant past, which few have ever heard of. AKRadecki^Speaketh 00:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

dab

well, City of Everett has become a redirect... but a dab might still be in order here... I've added a dab to SS City of Everett, and proposed one for Everett, Washington. I'd suggest something similar to this:

This article has material about is the very first Boeing 747, City of Everett
   For the city in Washington state, see Everett, Washington.
   For the whaleback steamship built in 1894, see SS City of Everett.

Comments? ++Lar: t/c 01:38, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Since there are multiple cities named Everett, for the sake of simplicity I just changed City of Everett to a dab page and moved the above disambiguation lines to an {{other uses}} template. --Kralizec! (talk) 15:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

SomeSeattleGuy

It's not in Tukwilla. Here's the mailing address from their Home Page:

9404 East Marginal Way S. Seattle, WA 98108-4097 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.108.217.94 (talk) 23:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

It is a bit confusing. The museum's website http://www.museumofflight.org/visit does list it as being in Seattle while sites such as [1] list it as being in Tukwila. However, Google Maps [2] shows the museum to be along East Marginal Way, next to Duwamish slip # 6 (see [3]). As one can see from sites [4] and [5] (pages 2, 9), this area is within the Tukwila city limits. — Myasuda (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

About teh big black one?

Yeah. About that. On this page it says that it is a Lockheed A-12, but on a shirt I saw FROM the museum it says SR-71 Blackbird. Should I edit the page to be accurate? -24.18.20.248(talk)

No, edit the shirt. - BillCJ (talk) 16:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello BillCJ , you may wish to include this message with your previous note to 24.18.20.248: "Please note that I am not trying to bite you, but trying to help you become a better Wikipedian.". Peace, rkmlai (talk) 18:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Chomp, chomp! For the record, T-shirts are not acceptable as reliable sources. I'm off to sharpen my teeth! - BillCJ (talk) 18:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted the article edit, as teeshirts are not RS and so I found a reference http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/lockheed-m-21-blackbird and thus have adjusted all to reflect what is real. Peace, rkmlai (talk) 19:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It's an M-21, as listed in the article.Beetlecat (talk) 23:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

--for some reason nobody makes "M-21" T-Shirts... ;) Beetlecat (talk) 23:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Other Large Collections of Flying Aircraft?

I'm wondering why the museum of flight's page has 50% content that points to other organizations. Especially since the museum doesn't have a notable collection of flying aircraft. :) New page for "notable collections of historic flying aircraft" perhaps? Beetlecat (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

A new page might be warranted. The entire section / list should definitely be removed from this article. — Myasuda (talk) 23:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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