Talk:Maria Goeppert Mayer

Birth and death!

This site http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/mayer.html lists birth and death differently than currently stated. Any clarifications? ::Obstructio 02:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

britannica encyclopedia agrees with wikipedia; June not July Josh Parris 02:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I get a number of hits supporting cause of death as a heart attack, the arm thing seems to mainly be from http://womenshistory.about.com/library/bio/blbio_goeppert_mayer.htm?terms=chicago+department+public+health and incorrectly ascribed to 1971. Josh Parris 03:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarifications :) Obstructio 04:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Born june 28 1906 DiedFebruary20,1972 at age 66 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.127.134.27 (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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Dead hyperlinks !

There are several dead hyperlinks in the references to this article. There is also a reference that instantly returns us to the same article. None of this does anyone any good.

Also, when we look up Wikipedia articles on MEN like Aage Niels Bohr, it says that he was the father of two sons and one daughter. We know who Aage Bohr's father was, too. Where is the SIN in this article's listing that Maria Goeppert-Mayer was the mother of at least two children? It was difficult to find out, but I got a reference that says this:

Nevertheless Goeppert Mayer produced ten papers, a textbook, and her daughter Maria Ann during her time in Baltimore. She was pregnant with her son John in 1938, when Joseph Mayer unexpectedly lost his job (at Johns Hopkins Univ.). They left Johns Hopkins for Columbia University.

As for Goeppert-Mayer's unspeakable difficulties in finding a full-time job, it is also true that while Joseph Mayer was at Johns Hopkins, the Univ. of Maryland - Baltimore County probably didn't exist, and it surely wasn't a research institution. Furthermore, expressways like Interstate 95 didn't exist, so there was no chance of her working at George Washington Univ., Georgetown, or the Univ. of Maryland at College Park. She didn't have much diversity.
When Joseph Mayer was working at the University of Chicago, the University of Illinois at Chicago wasn't very much, and neither was Loyola University Chicago. (It probably still isn't in physics.) Northwestern University was there, but did she even try? Northern Illinois University was a long way away w/o any expressways like Interstate 88. Even when Goeppert-Mayer was hired by the University of California at San Diego in 1960, it was very new, having been just established in 1957 or '58. It was called the University of California at La Jolla back then, too, but later on, the town of La Jolla was merged into the City of San Diego.
As for New York City and Columbia University, which other school in New York was any good at research physics back in the 1930s and 40s? I really have my doubts about any of these: New York University, the City College of New York, and the Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute. Also, SUNY Stony Brook did not exist back then, or not as a research university, and it was a long way away w/o freeways, and did SUNY have anything IN New York City back then?
I just think that people really NEED to take into consideration that both schools and transportation were a lot different back then. It might be hard to believe that at one time in the 20th Century, the Univ. of California only had three campuses: Berkeley, Santa Barbara, and Los Angeles, AND UC-Berkeley and UCLA both had colleges of agriculture. Now, we think of those as being only urban universities. The college of agriculture of UCLA used to be in the San Fernando Valley, LOL, and the cotton-picking scenes in Gone with the Wind were filmed in the nearby Simi Valley in Ventura County. Now the colleges of agriculture for the Univ. of California are in Riverside County and in Davis, California. Times change, but California is still a huge agricultural state.
98.67.175.254 (talk) 00:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Needed additions

Perhaps this article should mention the lives of her children a bit more and explore if they did anything noteworthy to follow in her footsteps. I would also wonder whether she did not get hired at John Hopkins as a full time faculty member was strictly because of nepotism or because she was a woman in STEM. I do not agree that nepotism is the only reason for her not being hired full time at the university. For a more complete explanation, it should include the prevailing patterns of discrimination of women in STEM fields as a possible reason for her solely part-time status. Additionally, this is the second woman only to Marie Curie to win a Nobel Prize in physics! Given this, why are there only two pictures of her? With a simple Google search, I found several others, including one that would be very relevant to a subject in the article where she was placed on a US postage stamp. Also, I found a picture of her in her scientist’s environment scribbling down stuff on a piece of paper and one with a blackboard behind her. On this page, there is only one portrait of her and the other photo is her with another man. Surely a woman of her stature and ranking should have more pictures included on this page. She did, after all, work on the Manhattan Project, something completely world changing. Also, it could just be generally longer, perhaps including some of her hobbies or personal beliefs as are included with other famous male scientists like Albert Einstein and George Washington Carver. A deeper look into her personal life would make her seem more interesting and human, instead of someone solely a scientist with no personal likes or interests whatsoever. For example, there is a good picture I found of her with her daughter at a younger age. Here are some links where the pictures could be found.

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Jswcp2015 (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC)Jswcp2015Jswcp2015 (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Regrettably, we cannot use those images on Wikipedia. We are restricted to using images that are licensed for use commercially. When searching for images with Google, go into its Advanced Image Search and filter by "free to use, share or modify, even commercially". Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:33, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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Moved. See general agreement below that the hyphen should be removed. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  23:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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Maria Goeppert-Mayer → Maria Goeppert Mayer – WP:COMMONNAME: No sources use the hyphenated form. It seems to be a custom in some parts of the United States to refer to married women by both maiden and married names, and this is the common form in the literature (and is used throughout the article. It is sometimes confused with a double-barrel surname by British readers. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:02, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Support based on Encyclopaedia Britannica, Nobel.org, APS, etc. τ℗ʍ (talk) 01:31, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Comment—Some source do use the hyphen, including these published by the scientist herself (1|2|3), and the Encyclopedia of Women's History in America ([9]). This looks equivocal and I would recommending including both terms in bold in the lead. No opinion on the move.--Carwil (talk) 18:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Support Ngrams are pretty split but somewhat more authoritative sources seem to use without the dash. Pretty marginal though. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:59, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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