Talk:Luigi Pirandello

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(brushes away cobwebs) Well, Right You Are is doing a run in NYC as I write this (from elsewhere) and there might be some visitors coming.

My impression is that financial need drove him to study hard to get a good job as a professor of literature; that need was aggravated or caused by earthquake, by related ill fortunes of family business, and by another related factor, his wife's madeness; that an earthquake in Sicily in fact did initiate enormous disruption in his life; so that the earthquakes and their psychological victims in Right You Are as well as in As You Desire Me are reflections of the types of events that actually did happen.

On the fascism issue, I would like to know why does the article say that he expressed "enthusiasm" for fascism. Desire for patronage is possible; it's my impression that he had to look internationally for money; and that in any country, he could have faced challenges making his vision of theater real. I would also like to know what evidence he left indicating his true attitude--My impression is that The Mountain Giants and The New Colony make veiled or ambiguous critiques of fascism.

It might be worth noting that after his death it came to light that Pirandello left instructions for cremation, naked in a sheet. This was not only a slap in the face to the Church, which abhors cremation, but also to the fascists, who "did not want a world-famous fascist to slip off naked--i.e., without his black shirt" (Naked Masks, Eric Bentley ed., Appendix II, Biographical and Historical; p380 in ISBN 0-525-47006-9) I have an idea that Pirandello was in fact given a fancy funeral by Mussolini's government, in contradiction to his own wishes.

Would be nice to mention who he influenced/was influenced by. I speculate there's influence in one direction or another between LP and Kafka, Borges, and Ryunosuke Akutagawa--the parallel seems clear to me between LP's Right You Are and RA's In A Grove (popularly called Rashomon because that's what Kurosawa named the movie). Akutagawa definitely studied western literature. I would like to know what Pirandello knew of eastern literature. (In Pirandello, witnesses differ on who died; in Akutagawa, on how death occurred; Alternatively, perhaps both men were influenced by Robert Browning's The Ring and the Book)

-MunGe

Hello. I'm an italian reader. Please, someone must write something about Pirandello's Novels! I mean, it is possible that, in England, wonderfull works such as "Uno, nessuno centomila" (One, no one, 100.000), "Il fu mattia Pascal", "I vecchi e i giovani", "Quaderni di serafino gubbio operatore" and "Liolà" are completely ignored? To me, they are important at the same level of theatre's works. Sorry for the orrible english: if I could write better, i would have written about this theme myself.

No problem, your english was fine. I'm sure that if you wrote a review of those works and if they needed improvement, one of the editors that prowl wikipedia would help shape them up. -Kuzaar 17:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

his novels and novellas

Not just his novels, my friend. I am an Italian-American who has been living in Italy for the last five-six years. I first heard about Pirandello from my cousins about 5 years ago after one of them lent me a copy of Uno, Nessuno e Centomilla. I was absolutely STUNNED by this masterpiece of Dostoyevskian intropsective self-examination which, I though, surpassed even Dostyoveski in pshycological and philosophical sophistication about questions of personal identity. And the dark humor on the verge of madness was breathtaking. I later bought a copy of his complete works. Evreything: novels, plays, short stories, that he has ever written. I was saddened by the fact that this unparalled genius was virtually unknown in the US.

Anyway, what I want to do is write up a few paragraphs on his novels and the main novellas. Then, I will scan all of his works, in Italian, onto the Wikisource. There shouldn't be any copyright problems. If I eventually get enough time, I will translate some of these works into English personally. I think it is that important!! --Lacatosias 21:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Must leave

I am forced to get off-line, bit will continue tomorrow.--Lacatosias 17:12, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Length

And don't complain about the lenght either. Go take a look at the entry on 800,000 byte entry on Cindy Sheehan. She will probably be completely forgotten in ten years. the Italian wiki has an entry on some modernist writer of the last twney years whi I've never even heard of which is about 6 times as long as this one. Trotsky has an another 800,000 byte entry which is close to a features article!! What the hell does Trotsky mean to me?? Nothing. A Russian revolutionary who wrote turgid and progandistic (=very bad) social philosophy. This coming from a leftist. Does he deserve 800 KB???--Lacatosias 17:05, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Very impressive, but not appropriate in tone for an encyclopedia. 19 October 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.99.40.14 (talk) 01:24, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps Pirandello deserves such a long article but no one deserves such an ill-written article. It seems to have been written by someone who is only semi-literate (the example cited below is only one). This is meant to be an encyclopedia after all, not just a wall to write your rambling thoughts on. If I was an expert on Pirandello I'd try to cart away some of the rubbish, but I actually came here hoping to find some useful info. The article actually starts well and then degenerates into incoherence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campolongo (talk • contribs) 08:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Works

I added the titles of his poetry books. I think that a separate section should be created for each category of his works. Regarding "Youngsters and oldsters" sounding archaic or hillbillyshish.. that's exactly how Pirandello wrote the book. :) It's one of his few works talking about rural Sicily.

I don't quite remember it, passed quite some time since the last time I read it, however I think that even the characters call each other "youngsters" and "oldsters" using the local dialect.

Just to explain the reason of my previous edit, Young People and Old People is fine enough. Thanks for your contribution!

Hoho!! That is a good point, now that I think of it. Almost all the works were originally in Sicilain dialect (which is pertyy hilbilyish indeed (0.). But you are quite right: this one is also about Sicily and the rural society. Either one is fine with me. The reason I chose "The Young and The Old" is that I was thinking about something along the lines of "The Young and the Restless" where the plural is sort of implied. But it is rather ambiguous in any case. I was planning to write sections for novels, thater, etc., but have been sidetracked by many other things. I hope to get around to it at some point. --Lacatosias 16:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

The Plays?

Should some attention be paid here to his dramas? After all this is what he is best known for. (The novels section is wonderful though.)

That is correct, a section on the plays needs to be added.

Yes, Six Characters in Search of an Author is considered a major work of modern drama! The entire article is terribly askew!2Frann89 (talk) 17:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)Frann89

Ah hah!!

There are no referecnes at all. I never got arounf to adding them. I usually add references after writin articles. I will get arounf to it. The fact is that I have too many and I'm not up to the task right now (;--Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 08:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn

Original research?? I wish!! LOL!!--Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 09:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Say What?

I wonder if someone can explain what this means: "The commingling, deliberately not amalgamated, of ancient and new, of lucid torments of reason and of desperate desires for immemorial resting places represents the characteristic cipher of this surprising author who certainly does not attenuate the contrasts and contradictions." This article is so dense with this stuff I couldn't get through more than a few sentences. Nickrz (talk) 01:46, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Randomly generated sentences, or possibly plagiarized from a very, very bad master's thesis

WTF is this shit?

The commingling, deliberately not amalgamated, of ancient and new, of lucid torments of reason and of desperate desires for immemorial resting places represents the characteristic cipher of this surprising author who certainly does not attenuate the contrasts and contradictions. ... The insecurity of modern man, the multiplication of perspectives, the lack of a unique point of reference are due, in his view, to the failure of positivistic culture to respond to the ultimate needs and questions of man. Science has corrupted the ingenuous margins of religion and fractured the anthropocentric perspective, the source of security for man in the past.

Hence the superiority of man over other animals, for Pirandello, following in the tracks of Leopardi in the Operette Morali and the "sublime" Canto Notturno, is overwhelmed by hammering questions without response.

In these times dominated by technology, however, the "superfluous" of man can be offered, in a sort of upside-down and ironic ecstasy, to an inanimate and cruel Moloch, as happens to Serafino who reaches the perfect state of indifference, adapting himself completely to the imperious mechanisms of the camera and becoming, at the end of the novel, completely mute, buried in an aseptic "silence of things".

EEng (talk) 03:05, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree 100%--but let's not waste energy arguing whether Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias is full of sh**/a fraud, etc...Can't someone contact a decent Pirandello scholar and ask her to step up, and contribute to the article? Unfortunately, I don't know anyone.2Frann89 (talk) 17:32, 7 September 2013 (UTC)2Frann89

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What Company?

I think I can see that the incoherence of one of the original authors has been rectified. But their might still be some remaining ghosts here. Namely this sentence in the last section:

"The company took their act throughout the major cities of Europe, and the Pirandellian repertoire became increasingly well known."

This is the first mention of a (touring) company (I assume), but has no explanation as it is worded as if a previous description used to be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.110.126 (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Who or What is Craperallis?

Pirandello reportedly earned his doctorate degree with a dissertation on Craperallis, but I can't find out anything explaining who or what this is.

Is this a joke? Because the very word sounds like one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:243:4:E90A:3474:D207:3798:B186 (talk) 06:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)