Talk:Lorde

Impact

At this point in her career, I feel that an "Impact" (or "Influence") section is long overdue. Publications have credited Lorde with the rise of new artists and a new sound change in the mainstream. Several well-known artists have also cited her as as influence. De88 (talk) 14:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

As Lorde's publicity person, it's understandable that you would propose this. However, please state your interest in Lorde when making these suggestions.Newzild (talk) 04:32, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Some changes

Dear contributors, I've been doing some research quite extensively. It took me a while to get all these sources and am not erasing anything that is crediting, only adding further information to already existent facts and genre discussions. Please everything is CREDITED, you can check it, I even mention a book. Please, do not erase this information that took me so much time to write and research. Instead, if you have suggestions, you can comment them here before. Thank you! --Hadriensaori (talk) 16:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Can someone change the "profile picture"?

The actual profile picture is kinda outdated and it's not very pretty. Since I can't change it, can someone change it for me? I can send you the image via email. Thanks :) REEC1394 (talk) 03:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@REEC1394: I think the current picture is fine and it is not at all outdated given it was taken less than a year ago. If you do have a picture of her, were you the photographer? Images that are owned by other companies or photographers who have not explicitly made their work free to use are not allowed here. De88 (talk) 04:55, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Like to an actual professional photo?

https://nationaltoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Lorde.jpg.webp 2601:8C1:8280:4840:38C3:E945:4936:5343 (talk) 01:08, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

N - not allowed, doesn't look like a free image to me. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2018

Please change "17" to "16" in the following line: "At 17, it made her the youngest solo artist to achieve a number-one single on the US Billboard Hot 100 since 1987." Because she was still legally 16 when her song, Royals, hit number 1 on the Billboard 100 first week of October 2013. Her birthday is on 7 November 1996. 2406:E007:7B72:D201:5DBE:539B:D89E:7061 (talk) 00:51, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik_Zero 18:43, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Lorde's publicity person reverts "Israel controversy"

The "Israel Controversy section" has been changed to just "controversy" by User De88.

This doesn't make any sense, because the only controversy underneath the heading relates to her cancelled concert in Israel.

Upon closer inspection, it turns out the De88 only ever edits articles relating to Lorde.

If De88 has a conflict of interest, then it should be declared on this page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzild (talk • contribs) 04:32, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

It was changed because the section was too small for "Israel controversy" to be the main title. Notice that it also says "Controversy", not "Controversies" such as this article that clearly mentions more than one incident. Also, the Israel incident received media attention for approximately a week and is too premature to warrant a title dedicated solely to this. I still kept all the information from both sides. My intention is to not place bias on this issue and the amount of superfluous information—particularly opinions from people who did not exert legal action on that section—was ridiculous.

I am in no way associated with Lorde, nor do I know her personally. No, I am not her "publicist". I am merely a fan of hers and simply wish to improve her articles. De88 (talk) 04:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Whether this is true or not, you have no right to revert constructive edits. The comments associated with her reverts, and the fact that your entire editing history is entirely devoted to Lorde, betray the fact that you are deliberately trying to manage her reputation. For example, when the "controversy" section was changed to "Israel controversy", you reverted with the comment "Removed needlessly inflammatory terminology in favour of neutral language" when there was no "inflammatory" language. You have also deleted mention of the full-page advertisement in the Washington Post, which is surely of interest. Newzild (talk) 06:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

I used to edit other articles but then found my way to Lorde's repertoire a year ago. Reverting your edit over the "inflammatory" language was a mistake. I ended up adding the word you used after looking into the firm itself and their classification. The full-page ad posted by an American rabbi serves no purpose in the article as it did not influence a decision from Lorde, the activists who ordered her to cancel her concert or any court for that matter. A lot of people called her a bigot, ordered for the cancellation of her concerts in Russia and Florida but none pursued legal action. At the end of the day, those ads and demands pretty much are opinions and reactions. What I did was move all those sources into the sentence about how her actions were received. I think that does a good job of summarizing the incident in a succinct matter, especially considering the article itself is small as it is. It used to take up four paragraphs, almost the same size as her "public image" section. De88 (talk) 07:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Just admit that you're her publicist already!!!!!!!!! UGHHH!!!! You Dumb FUDGEBLUCKER! you POopOOOO HEAD Newzild (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

No 'Personal Life' Section?

Can somebody please make a personal life section? 80.233.35.53 (talk) 23:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Can someone please add the reference to the information that Lorde has Croatian citizenship? Here is the link where she mentioned this: http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-844-lorde. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raqusa (talk • contribs) 16:16, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Raqusa: There is a source (from The Dubrovnik Times) already in place for this. De88 (talk) 02:50, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

@De88: Great! Thanks, I did not see that!

Legacy?

Don't get me wrong. I'm a big supporter of Lorde and absolutely love her whole discography, but given her six-year career span with two studio albums, I doubt it is safe to say Lorde has left behind a legacy to the music scene. She has definitely contributed to the mainstream emergence of edgy/dark pop and lyrics (Halsey and Billie Eilish or any other Tumblr singer), but I prefer "Impact" or "Influence" over the current title "Legacy and recognition". Furthermore the mention of Taylor Swift's albums 1989 and Reputation being "compared to Lorde" is barely valid. Any comment on this? — HĐ (talk) 05:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree legacy is inappropriate. It is debatable for very old (but still living) artists - but definitely for a fairly newcomer. The section is also filled with PUFFERY (she's hardly the first female rocker - by a few decades - and other artists mimicking a commercial success is part and parcel of the trade). Icewhiz (talk) 11:22, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I admit that the use of "legacy" was misplaced and premature but the parts about the change in the alternative radio stations is warranted. Since "Royals" received airplay on those aforementioned stations, it made those stations adapt to the changes that were happening at the time. The section does not imply that she was the first female rocker. To quote Billboard, she was part of a "resurgence". @HĐ: I'd argue that reputation received more comparisons to Lorde's music though several songs off 1989 were compared to her as well, especially Blank Space. I think renaming the section "Influence and recognition" is a valid title since it not only mentions artists who received comparisons to Lorde but other music veterans who praised her music. De88 (talk) 11:59, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Still remains cherry-pickey WP:PUFFERY bordering on WP:NOTPROMO. Icewhiz (talk) 12:31, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

What do you suggest then? What bits of information should be removed? Everything on that section is not original research. A variety of up-and-coming artists receive comparisons to her image, music or songwriting. I think it should be noted that her first album marked a shift in the way pop music sounded. All of that is warranted. De88 (talk) 18:55, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

While 1989 and Reputation were both compared to Lorde's albums it cannot be reasonably inferred that Taylor Swift was inspired by Lorde, because producer Jack Antonoff served production for both artists. HĐ (talk) 23:59, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

To be fair, Antonoff only produced two songs on 1989 and the songs that received comparisons to Lorde's music ("Blank Space", "Bad Blood") were not produced by him. reputation received comparisons for Swift's overall darker image. De88 (talk) 01:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

I recognised that, but since Swift did not publicly state her inspiration from Lorde surrounding the production of Reputation, it's sensible to remove that bit of info to avoid biased/fan writing. Actually Swift and Lorde were compared to each other very often for the dark/electronic sounds, but it's under the question whether they were influenced by each other or not. — HĐ (talk) 01:12, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

That is valid. However, in the section, there is no mention that Swift was directly influenced by Lorde. Simply that her music received comparisons to Lorde. If you read the first sentence of that paragraph, it reads, "The melodic styles and lyrics of artists such as... have all been compared to Lorde." The paragraph above that mentions a list of artists that were directly inspired by her. De88 (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes but the point is that comparison is not equivalent to Lorde's influence. — HĐ (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

If the last paragraph is merely on artists who had some of their work compared and contrasted with Lorde - it doesn't belong under Influence and recognition. Icewhiz (talk) 06:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Impact/Recognition

Having read through the section thoroughly makes me realise it has some issues and at times sounds like WP:Fancruft. Details:

"Lorde's song "Royals" garnered praise from musicians such as David Bowie,[133] Moby,[134] Dizzee Rascal[135] and Dave Grohl[136] for its take on common modern pop themes. According to David Bowie's bassist, Mike Garson, Bowie called Lorde "the future of music".[137]" → I don't see how this should be included to prove that Lorde was/is influential. Plaudits among musicians happen regularly.

"Its lead single, "Royals" has been recognized by music critics as one of the best songs of the century.[142]" → Given that "Royals" was so noteworthy, is it advisable to include further bits of info here? Furthermore "music critics" is a very vague term to begin with.

About the influence of Lorde on other artists — Apart from artists that admitted being directly influenced by Lorde, a series of artists following is of serious concern

"Musically, Lorde has spawned emulators: moody, alienated, minor-key-loving outsiders and misfits like Halsey (who had the No. 1 album last week), Alessia Cara, even some guises of Selena Gomez"[1] — This is not a proof that Lorde's styles have had impact on others music. They may bear similarity (moody, alienated or whatsoever) but including this is blatantly OR

"creating a sound that’s sexier than Lorde"[2] — Just a normal comparison, not even close to influence

"The ripple effects of Lorde’s first album, Pure Heroine, can be heard in young artists like Alessia Cara [], Daya [], and Halsey []" — Same comment as above. Comparison ≠ Impact. Lorde herself was compared to Lana Del Rey but was never subject to Del Rey's moody 50s influence.

That said, I suggest removing name-checking artists as much as possible and retain the comment of Lorde being the spokesperson for a new wave of "female rebellion". It is not to mention that this section can even be merged with "Public Image" detailing her rebellious image/alt-rock heroine/anti-Britney sensation. — HĐ (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

It might be worthwhile to check and see if there are more critical reviews of Lorde - are we representing the balance of reviews correctly, or cherrypicking the positive ones?Icewhiz (talk) 08:13, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

So far I haven't recognised any criticism towards Lorde. She's like the darling of critics in terms of music; everyone lauds her styles. — HĐ (talk) 03:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible sources

• Information regarding "Ella and Louis" duo, given that the current sources are questionable in terms of reliability

— HĐ (talk) 10:03, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Public image → feminist ideology

The current revision by Str1977 changed the original interpretation of The NZ Herald to simply "has spoken against "shock tactics" of other artists". As I have brought up this issue in the user's talkpage, I want to bring that up right here as well:

The original phrasing reflects the opinion not the article -- not Lorde herself. Present perfect tense is terrible (does she still hold a grudge against sexualised performance till this day?)

The original phrasing goes: "The New Zealand Herald opined that her feminist ideology was different from her contemporaries due to Lorde's disinterest in sexualised performances" -- an interpretation of a NZ Herald article -- She didn't even "speak out against" any "shock tactics". Now, look at the first source, which sensationalised what Lorde said -- She said: "I'm a feminist so certain things about pop music I find frustrating. I think pop is scarily powerful. There are a lot of shock tactics these days: people trying to outdo each other, which will probably culminate in two people f***ing on stage at the Grammys" -- that she expressed her frustration is different from that she spoke out against it -- did she try to say that shock tactics in pop were bad? She followed up that she tried to ignore that to focus on her own music. She even clarified she was a "sex-positive person" in a followup interview -- she didn't need such tactics for her music -- Did she really care about what those people were doing?

When asked about the reason for his rephrasing, the user simply replied like this: "How about you accept what the source actually says with fits well with what I wrote. Your version however use the whole reference merely to source the statement that she is a feminist and then take another article to mellow down what she said." First of all, "fits well with what I wrote" is absurd: the source this user used did not reflect neutrally what Lorde said about "shock tactics" -- it sensationalised her words, which was pretty recognisable back in the day when Lorde generated quite a buzz regarding her opinions on not only this but also other mainstream artists as well (which were not her own words; she just simply didn't care). Second, the second article from the NZ Herald wasn't supposed to "take another article to mellow down what she said" -- it's a detailed analysis of Lorde's feminist ideology.

I want to hear more from the user's reasoning, but if it is not solid, I'm afraid I'll have to revert to the original wording. That's pretty unnecessary since the original wording is completely objective and does not contain sensationalised content. Still, I'm waiting for comments on this, HĐ (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Lorde's instruments

Why does Lorde's instruments section only include her vocals as an instrument when it is shown in the image that she's using a sampler shouldn't it be included along with vocals as an instrument Mariya Grover (talk) 12:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mariya Grover: Her page has been updated to reflect this suggestion. De88 (talk) 10:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Birth years of siblings

Lorde's siblings are not the subject of this article are are not publicly notable. Per WP:DOB their privacy should be protected by not including their birth years here. The exact difference in age between the siblings is not important. Adabow (talk) 03:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

What do you mean Aperire2013 (talk) 17:58, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020

I wish to edit this site because I have learned more things about "lorde" Than is on the site. Arynp13 (talk) 23:03, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

impact

"It’s also the year [2013] Lorde, a New Zealand teenager whose confessional lyrics and glum sonic sensibility would be copied for the rest of the decade, released her debut." (https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/09/katy-perry-and-end-pop-smile-album/615757/) - something to consider including. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.172.7 (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Lead

Why did the lead change so much from the featured version? It looked tight before, with 1st paragraph concerning basic biographical info, 2nd paragraph her work, 3rd paragraph accolades. It now looks very choppy with four small paragraphs and biographical info mixed with work. RetiredDuke (talk) 18:21, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2020

Change: "After a suggestion from a school instructor, her mother had her take a series of tests to determine her intelligence. The results concluded that Lorde, age 6, had the mental age of a 21 year old adult." to "After a suggestion from a school instructor, her mother had her take a series of tests to determine her intelligence. The results concluded that Lorde, age 6, was a gifted child." I read the paper in the source and the information is not confirmed, but hearsay. The confirmed info is about the fact that she was a gifted child.

This is the quote present in the source: "Greive goes on to relate that she was diagnosed, through the Woodcock Johnson III Test of Cognitive Abilities, a test developed in the USA, as a ‘gifted child’ at the age of six, some tests giving her a mental age of 21" Apolinariosteps (talk) 14:46, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done I also added the name of the test for specificity and clarity. De88 (talk) 04:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2021

Section: 2012-2015: Pure Heroine After: "Royals", the EP's single, helped Lorde rise to prominence after it became a critical and commercial success, selling more than 10 million units worldwide.[29] Add: Lorde has claimed that the inspiration for the song's title came from a 1976 National Geographic photo of Kansas City Royals' George Brett signing baseballs. Following her comments, Brett sent her a Royals jersey with his name on the back. 1adm08 (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: I think this would be better placed in Royals (song) rather than this article. There isn't any other discussion of the inspiration for specific songs in the article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:11, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

References

Potential new Infobox images

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There are two recent photos of Lorde from Commons that could be used instead of the image that is currently being used. While I do think that the current image is a great photo, but you can't really see Lorde's face, I don't think that is a very good representation of what she looks like.

Between the two candidates, I think that the first image is the better looking photo, but the second one has a clearer view of Lorde's face which is probably more useful.

SINGmeAsadSONG (talk) 02:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree that either of those two would make better photos, even if solely for their recency, but my main qualm here is copyright. While the YouTube channel that the image is from is verified as "Vogue Taiwan", an upload of the same video 3 days earlier from "Vogue", which is also a verified channel, is not licensed under Creative Commons. I'm not sure if Vogue Taiwan (presumably a subsidiary of Vogue) would have the right to place the video under a CC license if the parent company Vogue didn't do that in the first place. --LivelyRatification (talk) 04:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

I found some deletion requests of files from the channel (File:Taylor_Swift_Vogue_2.jpg, File:Kendall_Jenner_in_2019_2.png & File:Cindy_Crawford_and_Kaia_Gerber_in_2017_(7).jpg) to see what the current consensus is for using images from the VOGUE Taiwan channel, it seems like it's okay since it's considered that it's from the same author.

SINGmeAsadSONG (talk) 05:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Fair point — if that's the case, I don't object to either of the alternative images, although I have a slight preference for candidate 2. --LivelyRatification (talk) 06:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

@SINGmeAsadSONG: Just thought I'd let you know that I've now opened an RFC on Commons about this issue at Commons:Requests for comment/Using imagery from VOGUE Taiwan. --LivelyRatification (talk) 00:20, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2021

I dont wanna edit anything but request if someone could write in the beginning that she is an singer from new zeanland AND croatia because she has roots from croatia also 2A02:8109:B540:53D0:19C6:C2F0:5AEC:EDA5 (talk) 14:16, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: She was born in New Zealand, and the article already covers that her mother was born to Croatian immigrants. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2022

Brilliantrt3 (talk) 03:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 

I have done extensive research on artists who were directly inspired by Lorde. I have found many more artists so if someone can add that would be great.

- Stevie Nicks 1- Girl In Red 2- Bea Miller 3- Kohla 4- chelsea jade 5- Ataska she mentioned in the description of the video how Melodrama inspires her. 6- suran elenashin 7- lauren jauregui 8- City Mouth 9- Kylie Odetta 10- Sara Kaya Komzin 11- Geiste 12- Amy Shark 13- Mystic Kitoband 15- Nina Rancel 16- Claude Bouvette 17 Alice Merton 18- Bella Taylor Smith: 19- Shi Shi 20 Naomi 21- Toffe 22- Christia Visser 23- Missy Higgins 24 Scott Helman 25 Apryll Aileen

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. - FlightTime (open channel) 04:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2022

changes to the impact section. There was a Lorde broadway-tribute show to celebrate Lorde and her impact on the music industry. Also here are more artist that have been ispired by Lorde: Halsey "On Badlands, Halsey’s larger-than-life vision combines the synthy darkness of Lorde, the neon-pop chutzpah of Miley Cyrus and the flickering film noir of Lana Del Rey." 1- Girl In Red 2- Bea Miller 3- suran elenashin 4- lauren jauregui 5- Geiste 6- Amy Shark 7- Claude Bouvette 8 Alice Merton 9- Bella Taylor Smith: 10- Shi Shi 11 Naomi 12- Toffe 13- Christia Visser 14- Missy Higgins 15 Scott Helman 16 Apryll Aileen Brilliantrt3 (talk) 11:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: None of this is notable without secondary sources covering it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

can someone add the following points to the impact section? a side note I've submitted most of these before but the response was " None of this is notable without secondary sources covering it" so I found many sources for most of them which I'll link. There was a Lorde broadway-tribute show to celebrate Lorde and her impact on the music industry. also here's a tweet of one of the performers talking about the show. Moreover, I was at the tribute show and took videos it is real Artists who were inspired by her: 1- Britney Spears. She mentioned Lorde in an interview where she talked about artists who insoired her. She also mentioned that Lorde is her dream collabration. 2- Girl In Red. 3- lauren jauregui.

 it is taken directky from her twitter account 

4- Halsey

5- Amy Shark.

References

Artists inspired by Lorde

Hi, what happened to the section of artists inspired by Lorde? why is it deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brilliantrt3 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Indopug: please explain.-gadfium 04:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

A laundry list of names is terrible writing; nobody is going to actually read that entire list. This is especially so since (as the article clearly states) Lorde is one of the most influential artists of the decade, so actually naming everybody she's inspired is pointless (can you imagine such a list for the Beatles?). Further, the version of this article that passed a thorough FAC review had no such list; it has been added without discussion in the years since.—indopug (talk) 08:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I support indopug's mass removal. Some of those sources also looked questionable in terms of quality. KyleJoan^talk 09:16, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

well, you do have a point but i still think it is important to keep the list as it's a huge part of her impact and legacy as an artist. I also fact-checked all the artists that were influenced by her and everything was correct. I am 100% sure that everything was credible as i did an extensive thread on Lorde's impact. I still have all the names and sources if it's still an option to bring back the list. Also, there was a show set by Broadway to honor Lorde called " 54 SINGS LORDE" to quote the website, " join some of Broadway’s best as we celebrate one of the most influential artists in the music industry today: Lorde." I myself attended the show, so do you think it's worth adding? maybe in the impact section or a new section called honoree if that's not too much. Brilliantrt3 (talk) 00:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Brilliantrt3, this article—according to which Stevie Nicks saw Lorde in the crowd and impromptu dedicated a performance of "Landslide" to her—is being used to suggest that Lorde has been a direct influence on Stevie's music!—indopug (talk) 07:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

This one is true, there is a video of her speech. https://twitter.com/lorde_fix/status/1172091117598175232 Brilliantrt3 (talk) 19:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

It seems to me obviously false, or at the very best dubious, that Lorde has had much of a direct influence on the music of Stevie Nicks, and I don't think a long list of names influenced by Lorde is necessary even if all the names can be verifiably proved to be 100% influenced by her music. LivelyRatification (talk) 00:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Dedicating a performance doesn't mean Lorde was an important influence on Stevie's music, most of which was made forty years earlier.—indopug (talk) 03:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough, I do still think that the list is still important. With removing Stevie and Elton John, the list would be accurate as all the other ones directly stated that her music influenced theirs. Can you be more specific about not wanting to keep the list? I mean as I said it's 100% accurate for all the artists that were there except for Stevie and Elton. It's an important part of her impact and legacy so I don't really understand your argument? Brilliantrt3 (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Her impact and legacy are already well-established in that same section:

Lorde's critiques of mainstream culture on Pure Heroine earned her the title "the voice of her generation",[17] a label she dismissed, saying that "young people have never needed a specialised spokesperson".[108] Jon Caramanica, writing for The New York Times, credited Lorde for bringing forth a "wave of female rebellion" to mainstream audiences that embraced an "anti-pop" sentiment.[137] Sharing a similar viewpoint, Rolling Stone and NPR credited her debut studio album Pure Heroine as the foundation of that transformation.[111] Several analysts also noted Lorde's influence on the music trends of the 2010s,[138] and have credited the singer with paving the way for the current generation of alternative-leaning pop artists.[139] She placed at number 12 on NPR's 2018 readers poll of the most influential female musicians of the 21st century.

To reiterate: when somebody has been credited with "paving the way for the current generation", actually listing out the names of everybody in that generation is absurd.—indopug (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2022

I want to request the picture of Ella (Lorde) to be changed to a more updated picture of the artist, as she has now dyed her hair blonde. I suggest using a picture from her performance at the Glastonbury Festival due to the recent nature of the performance. Thank you for your time reading this, and please consider making this edit for Lorde and her fans. RNmusicgal (talk) 18:48, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please provide an image with an acceptable license. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

instruments

lorde plays several instruments can someone add them to the instruments section? 1- sampler i couldn't link the viedo but lorde played the sampler while performing precious metals once 2- piano https://exclaim.ca/music/article/lorde_admits_solar_power_sounds_a_lot_like_primal_screams_loaded#:~:text=Concerts-,Lorde%20Admits%20%22Solar%20Power%22%20Sounds,Exactly%20Like%20Primal%20Scream's%20%22Loaded%22 3- guitar https://www.complex.com/pigeons-and-planes/2013/05/taking-flight-16-year-old-ella-yelich-oconnor-vs-lorde-popstar/173618 Brilliantrt3 (talk) 07:17, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2023

172.56.216.50 (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2023 (UTC)She loves music

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 18:15, 7 June 2023 (UTC)