Talk:List of monarchs of Bavaria

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This list is all but impenetrable to the willing and curious average reader. Slight expansion of this very close-mouthed format might help, especially if a brief appositive ("victor at Lechfeld") were added in some cases. If dependable genealogical data are not available before the Liutpolding, a brief introductory paragraph maybe? --Wetman 00:59, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

That was then. Now, Sebastian scha.'s expansion and tabular format are turning this into quite a reader-friendly article, well linked to the rest of Wikipedia! --Wetman (talk) 23:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not at all sure this is an improvement. The relationship between the various contemporaneous dukes is especially obfuscated by the new table. RandomCritic (talk) 04:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

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Inclusion of Charlemagne and Louis the Pious?

Might it be more prudent to only include in the list people who were specifically Dukes/Electors/Kings of Bavaria rather than Kings of the Franks/Germany? Emperor001 (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Dashes in groups of three, four, or five numbers

@Zenzic-Eváristos: This article includes en dashes (–) in groups of three, four, and five numbers. Usually, the en dash is used to indicate a range, so I don't know what to think when I see something like

• Garibald I 540–555–591
• Odilo ?–736–748ys,
• Grifo 726–748–748–753
• Charles I the Great 748–788–794–799–814

If there is a meaning to this sort of thing, it should be explained in the text. If these are errors, they should be fixed. —Anomalocaris (talk) 02:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

The first date is always the date of birth (? = unknown), and from then on, if highlighted, the next date means the assumption of the office, and the last date is the death. Usually, the last two are the same, so it is condensed down to three. This is the practice on most of the family trees of rulers here. Zenzic-Eváristos (talk) 11:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Zenzic-Eváristos: Thank you for for the explanation. I see multiple styles. For example, House of Habsburg does it as I expect, with life date ranges and ruling date ranges, each range having the usual exactly two dates. However, Family tree of Russian monarchs does it in different ways. The Rurik dynasty section has 3 or more dates separated by en dashes dashes and/or hyphens, without explanation, as you did here, but the Romanov dynasty section uses only 2-ended date ranges. Can you point to anything in Wikipedia that explains or "authorizes" the "Rurik" style? —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:55, 14 July 2020 (UTC)