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Kufic encyclopedia

The Kufic style of calligraphy can be regarded as the unique masterpiece of human calligraphy, because this style has reached every corner of the world. The Kufic style of calligraphy could be found everywhere ranging from the margins of Greek (Byzantine) icons and the engravings in French and Italian Churches to the inscriptions on coins and the buildings of African people. On the one hand Kufic is the ancient writing style of the Middle Easterners and on the other hand, the people of India and China have contributed to its spread.

The very unique, extraordinary, and highly impressive visual capabilities of the Kufic style of calligraphy, as well as its mysterious and profound quality which creates a kind of dynamic energy, and its potentials to produce a variety of attractive forms based on the primary Kufic style, are only a few characteristics of this type of calligraphy. Due to its infinite mysteries, the primary Kufic style (highly emphasized here) as being cryptic, seems not to have been deciphered yet and may never be.

One of the open secrets is the special pen used in the writing of early Kufic. Researchers like Martin Lings and Annemarie Schimmel believe that Kufic calligraphers used to write with tools other than the pen (and possibly used tools like modern matrix).

Mr. Seyed Mohamad Vahid Mosavi Jazayeri after years of research, in the first volume of the "Kufic Encyclopedia", compiled and published under the title of "Learning How to Write the Primary Kufic Style of Calligraphy" in a new method has proved that early Kufic writing involved the use of a sharp and exclusive special pen. With the use of this special pen, the author has made possible the teaching of primary Kufic calligraphy.

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Please do not hesitate to ask me if you have any question.

Regards, Director for Coordination and Sales of the Kufic Encyclopedia

I removed a section of purely commercial advertising from here (where you see "..."). I thought it not appropriate, however I left in the information that seemed relevant. Also see Mashford's note below. Philip Howard (talk) 02:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible moving text?

Perhaps all of the above would be more appropriate in the main article? Perhaps the Director did not get the idea of the wiki. --Mashford 00:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Ancient Kufic vs Square Kufic

Perhaps the article should more clearly distinguish the ancient Kufic script style of early manuscripts; and the present day stylised square Kufic (or rectangular Kufic, geometric Kufic) used in present day designs and logos.
With the current text, it is not always clear when the article is discussing one and when it is discussing the other. Jheald (talk) 08:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. I can't get my head around the concept, that every single modern geometric font is being called "kufic". At least I have never seen any other classification mentioned. I'm not an expert on arabic, but I can decipher some words. I find the appearance of the more usual fluent calligraphy much closer to the ancient kufic handwriting than the latter to what's being called "square geometric kufic", where a beginner has problems to identify the individual letters. For me "kufic" only makes sense in connection with the old handwritings. See the topmost comment, where a self proclaimed expert on kufism talks about his magic reed pen.

(I fully realize that I'm responding to an eight year old comment. What does this say about the development of this article?)

--BjKa (talk) 12:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

writing error

The actual arabic writing used to represent "allah al akbar" in this article is backwards. It has the word allah to the left of al akbar as if we were reading from left to right. It should match the writing on the image of the Iraqi flag. I would change it myself but I am worried I will mess it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.167.255.156 (talk) 22:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

source of this article

It appears that this article is based almost entirely on a non-academic polemic article written for a clear religious purpose. It should be rewritten on the basis of scholarly sources. McKay (talk) 12:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes and of course if you read all the articles carefully in the site, the site is no more than a 'Christian vs Islam' debate site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.54.106.25 (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Proof for:

• Wolfgang Kosack: Islamische Schriftkunst des Kufischen. Geometrisches Kufi in 593 Schriftbeispielen. Deutsch – Kufi – Arabisch. Christoph Brunner, Basel 2014, ISBN 978-3-906206-10-3.

https://portal.dnb.de/opac.htm?method=simpleSearch&query=islamische+schriftkunst+des+kufischen --77.58.210.35 (talk) 20:42, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Vikings

I see a (badly edited in) reference to the claim that Vikings "had Allah written in their clothes".

This would be relevant to the article, if properly presented both in format and with the caveat that Larsson's claim is one that other experts do not accept as obviously true, involving deeply speculative "reconstruction" and accusations of mere pareidolia.

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Suggested Addition on Variations of Kufic

Hello,

I believe that adding further explanation/instances of the variations of Kufic script may be helpful, as there is only a description of the uses and examples of square Kufic script at the moment. Perhaps adding sections on floriated and knotted Kufic would balance the article a little better, as those variations are mentioned in the lead but not elsewhere.

Best, Figapartmenttoast (talk) 01:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

An example of square kufic letter

the letter alif drawn on a grid.
ShlomoKatzav (talk) 04:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

The Kufic script did not originate in koufa even if it did get its name from, it did exist from early Islam in Arabia. Boutarfa Nafia (talk) 18:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)