Talk:Stampy

Shorty Award

While he was nominated for a Shorty Award in 2015, [1] it is not notable to list since he wasn't a finalist in the categories. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:47, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

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Birthday reliable sources

Need to get some reliable sources to track down his birthday, as the only ones I can find on Twitter are thank you tweets and those can be posted any time after the birthday. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

• [2] "Thank you @Sqaishey for getting me my minecraft helpers for my birthday!"
• [3] "Thank you for all of your birthday messages everyone. :)"

Age

Joseph was born on December 13, 1990 and is currently 27 years old. JG360 (talk) 06:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

@JG360: unless you add a source for this, it needs to be removed per WP:DOB. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:55, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

see WP:RSN#WP:DOB and thanking people for birthday wishes on Twitter for a related thread about this BLP and Garrett's date of birth. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:48, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

The interview on YouTube says he was born in 1990. Garrett himself doesn't say this, but it could be argued that since he's right there in the video that he'd probably say something if it were wrong. However, we already have a source for his general birth year, and it's significantly more reliable than a self-published YouTube video. The other sources added are not reliable by any measure. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:03, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Return of ‘Lovely World’

This should be mentioned:

Stampy has recently announced the return of his ‘Lovely World’ series and as a result has been creating live-streams where he ‘re-learns minecraft’.

It mentions: ‘Garrett took a hiatus from his main YouTube series in late 2018 and uploaded his last Minecraft video on 19 October 2019. After another hiatus, he began working on his channel once again but did not return to Minecraft. Additionally, his videos received an average of about 60,000 views, a massive decrease from his peak during 2013-15.’

But this should be mentioned:

On December 13, 2019, Stampy started a new minecraft series in continuation with his den series, called ‘Space Den’, the 4th den so far. He films the videos with his real-life wife, Sqaishey Quack. Banana the best editor (talk) 13:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Banana the best editor: If all this information is mentioned in a reliable source, sure. SK2242 (talk) 14:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@SK2242 For the first point, this is mentioned by Stampy himself many times on his channel and the live-streams are proof of themselves. Same goes for the Space Den series. However, I am new to editing so I don’t know what counts as a reliable source. I also cannot edit it myself as it is locked Banana the best editor (talk) 15:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

See WP:RS. Primary sources like his own channel are good for verification, but not to establish that it’s noteworthy. If you have found a RS please make an edit request on this talk page. SK2242 (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Stampy’s Spouse

Anyone who’s working on the page, please remove Kye’s deadname. “Bethany” is their deadname. Their chosen name is now Kye. PineappleRain (talk) 14:37, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2021

It has his Spouse’s deadname listed, please switch it from Bethany to Kye. PineappleRain (talk) 07:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

If you need evidence, I have an image of Sqaishey’s Tiktok where they reveal that they have changed their name to Kye. PineappleRain (talk) 07:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Here’s the link to the Tiktok, it should be at the top of the comments section.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMegnYQBa/ PineappleRain (talk) 04:11, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hopefully that link worked, if not let me know and I’ll find another way to send the information. PineappleRain (talk) 04:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: That video doesn't seem to relate to a name change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Not the video itself, go to the comments section of the video, someone asked what their name was and they said that they changed it to Kye. PineappleRain (talk) 05:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Fancruft

@Blubewwy What parts do you think are fancruft? There's some stuff that could probably be cut down, but it's all sourced. — VORTEX³⁴²⁷ (Talk!) 03:47, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

The paragraph about Stampy's thoughts on why his second channel was succeeding was pretty crufty. Additionally, all that information about the history of Minecraft's release was irrelevant. The rewording of the section on Lee Bear was also a bit less than encyclopedic in its wording. (Sorry if this comes across as rude, I don't intend for it to.) Blubewwy (talk) 16:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

End of Lovely World series (October 22, 2023)

On October 22st of 2023, the Stampylonghead channel would release "Minecraft - Thanks For Watching [823]" and is marked as the end of the series. The series started on May 19th, 2012 (11 years, 5 months and 2 days) and lasted for 823 episodes. ThyOfThee (talk) 00:52, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

I saw this, I think we should make a artical about the series because of this. It has significant coverage and is one of the longest running series. LuxembourgLover (talk) 11:24, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I would keep that for the wikifandom pages. There is so much and most is already covered over there; I think a small section on the Stampy page about the general plot synopsis is the most we should do. 107.15.167.203 (talk) 19:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

This article states that the final episode reached 1.7 million views in under 24 hours; in fact, it had reached 2 million views within that timeframe. 199.47.42.195 (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

citation needed ThyOfThee (talk) 04:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Plot summary

@Blubewwy: I see you've been removing my edit about Stampy Cat eating cake for breakfast. That is a one of the most iconic parts of the character, it is certainly due for inclusion. You mention There is no such need for a section on the plot of Stampy's Lovely World (or any other series he has worked on) in an article about the man himself. If you want to write an article with a large plot section, make one specifically for the show you intend to write about instead, which I disagree with. The title of this article is 'Stampy', not 'Joseph Garrett'. Stampy's Lovely World is what Stampy is most known for, I personally don't understand why you don't think the plot should be included in this article. I don't think it has significant enough coverage to warrant a seperate article either. —Panamitsu (talk) 23:52, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Panamitsu If it doesn't have significant coverage for its own article, it doesn't have significant coverage to be in this article either. Wikipedia is not a place for copious amounts of information on everything, and what you have added to this article is massive walls of text that make it difficult to read and navigate. A lot of these details are unimportant to better understanding who he is, such as the fact that his channel logo was made by his father, or the entire paragraph about when his channel was briefly terminated, or the mention of the Let's Cress channel. See WP:FANCRUFT for more info on what I mean. While the article is in fact titled "Stampy", it is titled this because it is about the man himself. The plot of SLW is simply just a Let's Play, there is no need for such excessive detail. The Stampy Cat Wiki would be a better place for all this information. Blubewwy (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

It is not "simply just a Let's Play", there is a large amount of story. It is true that the article is currently difficult to navigate, I have been in the process of adding content and will later copy edit it to make it all nice. Mass removal is counter-productive as we need to include the information first before we know how to format it all. I think you may be misinterpreting WP:FANCRUFT, perhaps? That would be very overly specific information that isn't DUE for inclusion, such as "Stampy has a pet chicken named Flap in his post office". His channel being terminated is a large part of his history, especially considering that it became trending on Twitter. This would mean that it isn't fancruft.

I think the logo being made by his father is also quite important because this article is largely about his YouTube channel, and the article also mentions elsewhere that his father is a graphic designer. —Panamitsu (talk) 02:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Panamitsu I've gone through and edited a lot of what you've written. You're right that I probably shouldn't have mass removed everything you added, but like you said, it was a pretty big wall of text. I chronologically ordered the "Career" section, and did some trimming to help clean it up :) Blubewwy (talk) 03:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I think your edit looks good but you removed quite a bit of information that is due for inclusion. For example, the part that said that Garrett worked on his channel because he thought it would look good for his CV. I'd argue that that's quite an important part for the article as it describes why he worked on the channel. If it wouldn't have looked good for his CV, he may have not continued making videos. —Panamitsu (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

A lot of the removal was repeated content. I removed most of the stuff about Stampy's content being aimed at younger children from the "Content" section, as the same stuff almost verbatim was listed in the "Career" section. I removed the YouTube statistics section because there are only a few stats in it, from almost ten years ago. When his channel hasn't really reached notable success like that since nearly a decade ago, I feel it more suitable to simply mention in the Career section that his channel was once massive. Also, most of the sources I removed were still used elsewhere on the page. I tried to avoid deleting any sources entirely, and if I did so, that was by mistake. (And I removed the stuff about what his parents/family do for a living because that's not really relevant to Stampy or his YouTube channel's history.) Blubewwy (talk) 10:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I really like your new revision! You made the article look a lot better. Although I still dispute some of your removals, such as that his father made the channel logo, that he quit bartending once YouTube payed the same amount, and that he worked in his childhood bedroom. I think this is very important information, it's all sourced from places such as the BBC who write for audiences unfamiliar with Minecraft/Stampy (they often have paragraphs explaining what Minecraft is), so those parts wouldn't be classified as fancruft. You also removed some parts such as that he got engaged in 2018, I think that is important information. Look at Bill Gates for example, it has even more detail than the information you removed, such as the dates that he met Melinda. —Panamitsu (talk) 23:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Glad you like it! And I removed the stuff about his dad making the logo and Stampy working from his childhood bedroom because they're pretty small details. While they aren't necessarily fancruft, they are the kind of details that just aren't really in any other articles about YouTubers. Looking at some articles about YouTubers, I did actually see most of them list the professions of the parents, so I'll be readding that after I post this reply. And I removed the mention of his engagement to Sqaishey because it felt out-of-place in the section it was originally in, but I'm going to readd that as well. Blubewwy (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to make a request for comment on whether we should include that his dad made the logo and the childhood bedroom so that outsiders can have a comment. It appears that we can't reach consensus on our own. —Panamitsu (talk) 00:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah sounds good. I was hoping other folks would weigh in lol. Blubewwy (talk) 01:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

You also removed that he used to work as a bartender. Could you please stop removing content before we've got this stuff sussed out? —Panamitsu (talk) 04:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I removed that before you made the request for other people to weigh in. I wasn't planning on removing or adding anything else until other folks shared their opinions. Blubewwy (talk) 11:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I could ask the same thing of you with adding all that stuff back, anyways. Blubewwy (talk) 11:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I would say most details about any series that are reported in reliable secondary sources for Garrett should be mentioned in this article. He doesn't have that much coverage anyway and there's not an oversize concern here. For example, the BBC reported on his Lovely World series ending. This is WP:DUE for a mention. Iamreallygoodatcheckers ^talk 02:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

RfC: Should this article include that Garrett's father made his YouTube logo?

Should this article include that Garrett's father made his YouTube channel logo? The article previously mentions that his dad is a graphic designer. Also side question that we can't reach consensus over: should the article mention that near the beginning of his channel's history he made videos from his childhood bedroom? It has been suggested that these details are fancruft. Note that these are sourced from reliable sources. —Panamitsu (talk) 01:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support: If the information added is relevant, reliably sourced, and in policy, it can be included (with WP:BLPSELFPUB and WP:INTERVIEW in mind). This article is about a YouTuber, and since that is his profession, it should provide details on his life, the history of his channel and the reception and production of his content. In my opinion, stuff like his father designing his YouTube channel logo, mentioning his father's profession, or where he recorded his videos might not fall into WP:FANCRUFT as it gives a real-world context into his life and his content. I also do not mind a mention of the termination of the "stampylonghead" channel (if reliably sourced of course). On a personal note, I actually first heard of Garrett through the news surrounding that incident. Sparkl^talk 14:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
• No - it's a trivial detail, has no historical significance, and doesn't help the reader have a better understanding of the subject. I read this article for the first time today, and it's fairly obvious it was written from a fan's point of view. I also looked through the article history and this version is more encyclopedic and concise. These YouTuber articles are always prone to excessive bloat and trivial details that just happen to be in the news cycle. And also please note, just because something can be sourced, doesn't automatically mean it is suitable for inclusion. ⋆｡°✩🎃✩°｡⋆ Isaidnoway (talk) 21:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Good point, but I sometimes get confused as to what we should include for these types of articles. I get striking out details such where the subject records his videos, but it's hard to decide for other aspects since it's an online career. Sparkl^talk 23:40, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I think I should clarify what I meant by the sources. I meant to say that they often have a few paragraphs describing what Minecraft is, so they seem to be written for people that aren't familiar with the subject. —Panamitsu (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• No (Summoned by bot) - it's a trivial detail, has no historical significance, and doesn't help the reader have a better understanding of the subject. I agree wholly with Isaidnoways comments. Pincrete (talk) 05:37, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
• Include information - If it's reliably sourced it can be included. The information is relevant to his YouTube career which is intrinsic to his notability. They also link aspects of his YouTube career to his personal life, and this is a biography. Also with articles like this, it's not like we are running out of space or there is a massive amount of media attention towards the subject. This makes inclusion of information easier to be WP:DUE. Iamreallygoodatcheckers ^talk 23:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

  You think Garrett's father making his YouTube channel logo is relevant to his YouTube career? And just because something can be reliably sourced, doesn't automatically mean it is suitable for inclusion. 👻 Isaidnoway (talk) 11:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

  No I was clarifying what I meant. —Panamitsu (talk) 21:10, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

  And my reply was to Iamreallygoodatcheckers. 🎃 Isaidnoway (talk) 07:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

  Oops sorry, it can be hard to tell who's replying to who when I'm using the mobile app. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

  The person who made your YouTube logo is relevant to your YouTube career and it's also relevant to your biography when its your father. "just because something can be reliably sourced, doesn't automatically mean it is suitable for inclusion" - Yes I know. And this very true when you're editing Donald Trump, but this is an article is smaller and Garrett is less notable. The bar is lower for inclusion of material.

  Now if it was something completely trivial like I don't know "Stampy drives a Toyota Camry as of 2015." I'm not seeing the compelling argument to remove reliably sourced content in this instance. Iamreallygoodatcheckers ^talk 01:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

  I don't see how it is relevant to his YouTube career, he still would have had a YouTube career, regardless of who made his logo. Is it trivia that it was his father who made the logo, sure it is, but not worth mentioning. Isaidnoway (talk) 🍁 08:35, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

• I agree with Isaidnoway's comments above... The difference between the two versions as seen here is quite jarring. The current version of the article reads like it's written from a fan's POV with the promotional-ish tone and all that excessive detail. Ironically, his parents refused to buy him his own video game console. Really? Some1 (talk) 23:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• Support, not sure how a one-sentence blurb would hurt. Not that opposed to it being removed either, just kind of trivial thing to argue over anyways.--Ortizesp (talk) 06:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
• No It seems trivial to me. — Sadko (words are wind) 13:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

So, seeing as it's been about a month since this RfC was opened, is it about time to close it? I counted six votes for "don't include" and four for "include" (counting myself and Panamitsu). Blubewwy (talk) 13:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2023

Stampy was active during 2006-2023. As he left youtube forever. ILOVESTAMPY (talk) 11:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done He is still active on YouTube, currently making 24/7 live streams. —Panamitsu (talk) 11:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Stampy's first channel wasn't 'shut down'

Stampy did not shut down his first YouTube channel (the stampylongnose channel), contrary to what this page and one of the sources used [4] says; Stampy only removed some of the channel's older content and has continued to upload videos to it up until recently. (You can see that clearly, just by looking at the channel's main page on YouTube). BasicEdit (talk) 10:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

If that's the case, feel free to fix the article. Blubewwy (talk) 20:50, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I have now. If you have any concerns with my edit, just reply to let me know. BasicEdit (talk) 10:27, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

They look good to me! Blubewwy (talk) 17:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)