Talk:John IV of Ohrid

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Ivar the Boneful in topic Query

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:John IV of Ohrid/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply


I propose reviewing this article which I see has been waiting 8 months for review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

First reading edit

In general, it is well-written and short, but its length is not material if little is known about him.

  • The lead is too short. Please add a few more sentences summarising the main body of text.
  • "He was born ..." Start the main text with his full name.
  • His date of death is contradictory as between the infobox and the opening part of the text.
  • "His uncle raised him ..." This sentence is rather long and would benefit from splitting.
  • "if Paul Gautier's dating of a letter he received from the philosopher Michael Italikos to Christmas 1142 is correct." I don't understand the reference to Christmas here.
  • "This title apparently fell into disuse ..." This sentence is also rather long and would benefit from dividing.
  • "The couple had four children, of which two died in young age" Perhaps "at a young age".
Hi Cwmhiraeth, a big thank you for taking this on. I think I have addressed the points you raised above. Can you give it another look? And of course, any suggestions for improvement, beyond GA requirements, is appreciated. Cheers, Constantine 13:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Cplakidas: I am satisfied with your improvements and the expanded lead. I don't suppose there are any images available? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Hi Cwmhiraeth, unfortunately not, not even a seal of office or something similar that might serve the purpose. Constantine 20:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

GA criteria edit

  • The article is well written and complies with MOS guidelines on prose and grammar, structure and layout.  
  • The article uses several reliable third-party sources, and makes frequent citations to them. The sources are mostly not available to me and are accepted in good faith. I do not believe the article contains original research.  
  • The article covers the main aspects of the subject and remains focussed.  
  • The article is neutral.  
  • The article is stable.  
  • There are no images because none are available.  
  • Final assessment - I believe this article reaches the GA criteria.   Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:05, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks again for taking the time, and for your suggestions. Constantine 10:23, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Query edit

Second sentence of the second paragraph in the "Monk and archbishop" section is a bit unclear. Based on googling Paul Gautier is a modern Byzantine scholar, but maybe that should be made clear in the article. Who is the he in "a letter he received from the philosopher Michael Italikos". Presumably John IV, but again not totally clear. If there is any further information about that letter it might be worth including, as it seems noteworthy that such a letter would have survived. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 19:38, 7 April 2019 (UTC)Reply