Talk:James F. Allen (businessman)

AfC

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@SwisterTwister: Thank you for taking a look at this proposed draft. I am wondering if you'd be willing to offer more specific feedback. I'm not sure if you reviewed these sources in detail, but the ones I've included below definitely focus in depth on Allen and are from major publications:

• This Republican article, titled "Hard Rock International Chairman James Allen built global entertainment giant, next challenge is casino for Western Massachusetts", provides a detailed overview of Allen's early life, education, career, and personal life. There are 4 or 5 Hard Rock-related paragraphs in this article, but the majority of the article is about Allen himself.
• "Who is Jim Allen, the Hard Rock CEO who just bought Trump Taj Mahal?" by The Press of Atlantic City confirms many biographical details about Allen and his career—it does also discuss Hard Rock and the history of one particular property.
• This South Florida Reporter article ("Seminole Hard Rock’s Jim Allen Gets Lifetime Achievement Award") provides a detailed overview of Allen's early life and career, as well as his work on behalf of Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock. There is also the added benefit of verifying the lifetime achievement award, but the point I'm trying to make is that the article covers Allen the individual, and not his employers.
• This Forbes article also goes into a lot of detail about Allen's career and personal life. I hope this and the aforementioned articles help illustrate that he has not only been covered by "simple announcements, local business journals, notices and similar", as you said.
• Allen is not only associated with Hard Rock. As described in the first part of the draft's career section, he has worked for several casinos and hotels, as well as The Trump Organization and Sun International. Of course, the "Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International" subsection describes his gaming operations work in more detail, but this is no different than other biographies providing overviews of individuals' careers.

This draft describes some of Allen's work for Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International, as biographies should provide overviews of executives' experience and accomplishments, but my goal for this article was to focus on him as an individual and not his employers. The draft is accurate, fair/neutral, and provides an appropriate overview of his early life and education, career, and personal life, including details about his wife, their residences, and board roles. I hope you'll review the draft's sourcing again and reconsider your initial assessment. Inkian Jason (talk) 18:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

I've trimmed out details that were more about Hard Rock than Allen, and removed some sourcing which you may have considered less than ideal in the process, including CBS Miami, the website Florida Politics, and Lake Tahoe News, as well as two Forbes sources that were not specific to Allen. I hope this helps. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

I am marking this section as resolved since the draft has been moved into the main space. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 19:46, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Infobox image

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On behalf of Mr. Allen, I have uploaded an image to Wikimedia Commons and request its addition to this article's infobox: File:James F. Allen.png (which is currently in the OTRS permissions queue). I prefer not to edit the article directly, given my conflict of interest, but I'm hoping another editor can add the image on my behalf. @Huon: Pinging you in case you are willing to help, since you recently moved the article into the main space. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 18:35, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Inkian Jason, hello from Fylbecatulous. Fylbecatulous talk 18:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

 Pending: while this image makes its way through the OTRS permissions queue. I do not have a sign-in to peek at what has happened, but I will happily add the image as soon as the

 Warning on your file's Wikimedia Commons page is vanished. I cannot add an image that may be deleted along with a WP:COPYVIO slash mark through my edit. (I experienced a perfectly innocuous article be ruined when it was suddenly taken over by DISNEY). I imagine all is well but the actual tag needs to be turned to say "PermissionOTRS". If you wish an update, the template says please contact the tag placer or another OTRS volunteer. I have this page and both versions of your image on my watchlist and will take on this assignment for you as soon as I am online and notice the approval. Thanks as always, Fylbecatulous talk 18:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@Fylbecatulous: Hello! I don't think anything is wrong here. I think OTRS is just overwhelmed with emails so they're using these "pending" templates. I've had other editors implement "pending" images to infoboxes in the past, but if you're uncomfortable adding the image now, I understand. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

 Done Inkian Jason, I suppose this is unnecessariy lingering in the system of OTRS. I am placing the image now. A simple request and images are important to articles...I am answering as yes, so the bot ccan remove this from this lingering queue. Please reply with other needs/ adjustment / mark resolved. Thanks as always. Fylbecatulous talk 12:44, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@Fylbecatulous: Thanks for your help! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Year of birth

Hello! Gary of Bitner Group here, hoping to submit a few requests for this article on behalf of James F. Allen. Currently, the article is included in Category:1960s birthday and the infobox says he was born "1960/1961". This Casino International article confirms he was born in 1960. Can someone please change Category:1960s births to Category:1960 births and update the infobox to say "1960" instead of the range?

References

Thank you! GaryBitner (talk) 15:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

GaryBitner, is Casino International a reliable source? It seems like a magazine on casinos... I have a poor relationship with the industry so I'm tryna be a bit cautious. Can you provide reliable sources citing the magazine, or can other editors familiar with the mag confirm is trustworthiness? GeraldWL (Pine wish!) 14:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

typo: its trustworthiness. GeraldWL (Pine wish!) 14:10, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Thanks for reviewing this request. Casino International is a respected, London-based trade publication that covers the gaming industry in Europe and North America. It is part of the Datateam trade publishing group, which publishes credible magazines in many sectors. More info on Datateam's Specialist Division is here: https://www.datateam.co.uk/specialist/. The page says, "Casino International is the specialised monthly magazine for Casino Industry professionals all over the world. It brings news, in-depth features, events and products direct to casino managers and Operators. Casino International is the indispensable international business-to-business publication of the casino industry and is sent electronically to the casino managers and manufacturers." Also, here is more information about Casino International: https://www.casinointernational-online.com/about-us/ I hope this helps! GaryBitner (talk) 17:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

GaryBitner, after reviewing its credibility, I feel like it's a decent source to verify the exact year of birth, but not necessarily birth age. That would still use the Republican source. GeraldWL (Pine wish!) 17:46, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Thanks for confirming the source is helpful. Template:infobox person suggests using Template:Birth year and age when only the year of birth is known, so do you mind changing to "{{Birth year and age|1960}}" in the infobox? Thanks again! GaryBitner (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

GaryBitner, can you do me a favor and create a citation for the CI source using Template:Cite magazine so that I can insert it easily, since I don't really know much about that mag? GeraldWL (Pine wish!) 04:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: I think this should work:

Markup: <ref>{{Cite magazine |url=https://content.yudu.com/web/69r/0Aixfl/CIMay2018/html/index.html?page=44&origin=reader |page=42 |date=May 2018 |title=30 years of tribal gaming |first=Sharon |last=Harris |work=Casino International |accessdate=December 14, 2020}}</ref>

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Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 17:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: Can you confirm if this citation is formatted appropriately and update the Wikipedia article? I am also submitting a request to remove the "citation needed" tag in the first sentence, per this source, which is already used within the article. Thanks again! GaryBitner (talk) 21:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

GaryBitner, I did the birth year and age edit. I probably won't be around in basic edits for some time, since I'm currently high on good article nominations. But when I'm available for this article, I'll review the bottom. GeraldWL 06:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

"Citation needed" tag

Hello again! I noticed the first sentence has a "citation needed" tag, after "James F. "Jim" Allen is the chairman of Hard Rock International and chief executive officer of Seminole Gaming". These claims are already confirmed in the article body. This source is already used (ref name="Herrera") and says, "...said James Allen, CEO of Seminole Gaming and chairman of Hard Rock International". Can someone remove the "citation needed" tag? If helpful, here's the markup for the citation which is already being used within the article:

<ref name="Herrera">{{cite news|last1=Herrera|first1=Chabeli|title=How the Seminole Tribe came to rock the Hard Rock empire|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/biz-monday/article79172817.html|accessdate=September 7, 2016|work=[[Miami Herald]]|publisher=[[The McClatchy Company]]|date=May 22, 2016|issn=0898-865X|oclc=2733685}}</ref>

Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 21:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@GaryBitner:  Done. Seagull123 Φ 14:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City

Hello again! @Seagull123: Thanks for your assistance above. I'd like to propose an additional update to the article.

Currently, the page says, "In March 2017, Allen led the Hard Rock International purchase of the Trump Taj Mahal from investor Carl Icahn." This is true, but I propose adding an additional sentence to explain how Mr. Allen was personally involved, per this article by the trade publication Hotel Management, which says, "Not only did Allen grow up near the iconic New Jersey beachfront city, but he played a major role in opening the property that used to occupy the space: the former Trump Taj Mahal resort and casino." Specifically, I propose adding the following sentence to the end of the "Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International" subsection:

• Allen had "played a major role" in opening the hotel and casino, which closed in 2016, and helped reopen the property as the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City in 2018.

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Adding this sentence should also help clarify that the former Trump Taj Mahal is now the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City.

I hope User:Seagull123 or another editor can review and update the article on my behalf. Thanks again! GaryBitner (talk) 18:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Caius G. (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I have updated the article accordingly. GaryBitner (talk) 22:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed update

I'd like to submit another request to update this article, per this South Florida Business & Wealth article about Mr. Allen's induction into the H. Wayne Huizenga College of Business and Entrepreneurship's Entrepreneur and Business Hall of Fame. I propose updating the article with the following:

• Allen has been credited with the Guitar Hotel expansion of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Hollywood, as well as the guestroom tower expansion of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Tampa. He was honored as a 2020 inductee into the H. Wayne Huizenga College of Business and Entrepreneurship's Entrepreneur and Business Hall of Fame at the Nova Southeastern University in Davie, Florida.

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Hoping another editor can review and update the article on my behalf. Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 15:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Go ahead: GaryBitner, I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Caius G. (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I have updated the article accordingly. GaryBitner (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Business Hall of Fame Laureate

I'd like to request adding the following claim to the article:

• In 2019, Allen was named a Business Hall of Fame Laureate by the Junior Achievement of South Florida.

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Hoping this is appropriate to add, since the organization is notable. Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Caius G. (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I have updated the article accordingly. GaryBitner (talk) 22:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Request to update Personal life section

Hello again. I know the above requests have yet to be answered, but I hope editors don't mind me requesting another while it's top of mind.

The subject is now divorced from Isabel. I do not have a news source specifically confirming the couple's divorce, but I'm hoping the "Personal life" section can be updated appropriately and one can verify the divorce by searching case number FMCE19005571 in 2019 here. Example text for consideration: "Allen resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and Linwood, New Jersey" (without mention of Isabel or her board role). I will let editors decide if the marriage should be mentioned in some historical capacity, but I think the article should at least be corrected. As a reminder, I am submitting this request on Mr. Allen's behalf.

@Gerald Waldo Luis: I wonder if your current capacity allows you to review? Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 22:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Ferkijel (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ferkijel: Thanks for reviewing this request and updating the article on my behalf. However, I think the paragraph is now problematic ("His former wife, Isabel Allen, divorced in 2019, lives in Linwood, New Jersey. where she serves on Gilda's Club South Jersey's board of directors"). If you look here you'll see his ex-wife is no longer on the Gilda's Club South Jersey's board of directors. Since this content is outdated and more about the subject's ex-wife, I propose removing mention of her board role and the fundraising activities. I propose simply having the section's first paragraph read: "Allen resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He and his former wife, Isabel Allen, divorced in 2019." Would you mind taking another look and updating, if you agree? Thanks! GaryBitner (talk) 19:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)