Talk:Inverted question and exclamation marks

Real Academia

All of these should be but into italics, due to the fact that they are all in another language. I won't do it unless it is confirmed with a person better in grammer then I am. 66.41.83.205 (talk) 23:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

But all example sentences are put into italic. 27.3.74.193 (talk) 14:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

ATENTION

Sorry but inverted exclamation mark and interrogation mark are not used in written PORTUGUESE. do you know why? ¡¡¡¡¡Because I'm PORTUGUESE!!!!!

I'm editing here to say just that you have another mistake, not just in portuguese, both exclamation and interrogation marks are also not used in galician, as someone affirms at the beginning of this article. Please fix that. BTW I'm attaching here a link to the Normativa oficial do galego (galician official normative). You can also consult it to RAG (Real Academia Galega), the official institution which decides the normative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.165.19.115 (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

¿Why does the article not cover the inverted Interrobang? Maybe, we should add inverted Interrobang and shorten the name of the article to "Inverted Punctuation".

¿What is the opinion of others? [unsigned & undated comment]

• Disagree: Inverted interrobang → ⸘ (it isn't used in Spanish). [unsigned & undated comment]

• Partially agree: this article is not about Spanish, it is about upside-down question and exclamation marks; the interrobang is precisely a combination of upside-down question and exclamation marks, so it does merit inclusion. However, (i) only a brief mention is warranted, in a separate sub-section; and (ii) the article title should not be changed, because other inverted punctuation should not be added — otherwise we will have also inverted quotation marks added, and they should be handled separately. —DIV (49.179.148.244 (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC))

"Why does the article not cover the inverted Interrobang?" My answer would be "likely because noone has added material for it". That is, boldly go ahead! The worst case is you're reverted, and the reverting editor would then have to argue why your material didn't hold up. At the very least, he or she would have to suggest another article better suited to your material. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 09:30, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Dialects

Please explicitly clarify whether there are any significant differences in usage among dialects in Spain versus those in the Americas. —DIV (49.179.148.244 (talk) 07:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC))

There are none. Added that. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 09:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Computer Usage

The majority of the Computer Usage section seems to violate WP:Manual. The majority of the section is a how-to about inserting the symbols on various keyboards. It was helpful to me after a quick Google search, but nevertheless, it doesn't belong here in my opinion. Mrytzkalmyr (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, it seems I don't know how to link Wikipedia guidelines. My link was supposed to be to What Wikipedia is Not and the manual, guidebook, textbook, scientific journal section. Mrytzkalmyr (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

The shortcut is given at the sidebox at each policy, in this case it's WP:NOTMANUAL. Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal works so it is not obvious why your version doesn't! So does WP:manual. I still can't see why yours doesn't, it must be something you said ;-)

But to come back to your main point, I agree. We have an article Unicode input for that. But at other similar articles, enough people seem to believe it useful that there is no consensus in favour of deletion. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Most of the articles on any non-ASCII letters or symbols have info on how to type them on various operating systems and keyboards. However I agree that the current wording is ridiculously long and convoluted. For instance it goes into details about how to make the AltGr key work on Windows and the fact that the key used is marked "Alt", all of that is ignored mostly, code just says "type AltGr+!". This should be shortened to a table, which also reveals the fact that the shortcuts are pretty much the same (somthing+! and something+?) on all systems.Spitzak (talk) 17:30, 19 November 2020 (UTC)