Talk:Henry I, Prince of Anhalt

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Latest comment: 10 years ago by Rubor Sanguinis in topic Number of songs in collection Codex Manesse

Number of songs in collection Codex Manesse edit

I don't know, 'cause there's no source in the article, and the same case repeated at German Wikipedia as well, but there's no five songs in the contents of original manuscript. I won't change the article itself, as it's kind of original research, but after the page with Henry's picture, there's only one next page dedicated to his poems themselves in the codex and it in fact contains five stanzas. However, e.g. Karl von Kraus in "Deutsche Liederdichter des dreizehnten Jahrhunderts", Tübingen 1978, ISBN 3-484-10284-5, pp. 20-21 separates that stanzas as follows: first song is supposed to have three stanzas, second - two. The online preview with mentioned pages available here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1EUfBw5qokcC&dq=%22Ich+sach+die+schonsten+in+den+landen%22&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Similar separation seems to make e.g. Karl Bartsch in "Deutsche Liederdichter des zwölften bis vierzehnten Jahrhunderts", Leipzig 1864, pp. 122-123, online at http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WV06AAAAcAAJ&dq=%22Ich+sach+die+schonsten+in+den+landen%22&source=gbs_navlinks_s, although he would not use Roman numerals to separate both songs.

Google gives no more results with preview available, although I prefer to believe, basing on von Kraus' and Bartsch's separation method, number of verses in stanza (three first have 8, two last ones 9), used types of rhymes and matrum, as well like lyrical subject matters, that there's in fact two Count of Anhalt's poems included in Codex Manesse. If You would think that given above sources and my personal opinion seem to be enough to edit the article, feel free to do it. I'd be also glad to read any other, opposite statements, confirming that in this case every stanza really should be interpreted as a separate poem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rubor Sanguinis (talkcontribs) 15:55, 24 February 2014 (UTC)Reply