Talk:Gustave (crocodile)

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lack of reliable data,sounds like folkloreEdit

I think this article keeps saying Gustave Is rumoured to x and has practicaly no reliable data making it look like folklore.

Is Gustave alive or not?Edit

Someone who knows what's going on should clarify if he's alive or dead, as the intro says he's alive... while the second section says he's presumed dead. That's really encyclopedia quality continuity there....

As of April 2007, Gustave is alive. This has been reported by National Geographic http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/news/gustave-primeval/article.html

Since there is no hard evidence the subject is deceased, we cannot assume its life has ended. It could have easily been made uncomfortable by all the attention, and thus retreated out of the river to make a home in the less busy Lake Tanganyika. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeniorEditor240 (talkcontribs) 01:42, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

SizeEdit

But, regarding his size, I grant you that 20 feet may be on the low side for him, but there is no way he is 30 feet. Were he to have this size, he would easily be the largest crocodile in modern time. And he would make his species, the Nile crocodile, the largest living reptile, ahead of the saltwater croc. I'd suggest we say 20-23 feet. That still puts him on par with the largest living saltie

DinoJones 00:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)1 ton is FAR too low of a weight estimate for Gustave. There have been plenty of 16 foot Nile and Saltwater Crocodiles that have weighed in at around 1 ton. Gustave would be closer to 3,000 to 4,000 lbs.

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No offense who ever you are but Gustave is not 23 feet long and he is not 22 feet long he is 20 feet long I don't know why you people keep confusing this. Even the largest Nile crocodile on record which was 21 feet long doesn't approach that. Although your right about the saltwater crocodile being 23 feet long although the largest based from a skull would have been a few inches longer than 23 feet.

Indeed, the cited source (National Geographic) states that he is 20 feet long, so I've changed the article accordingly ([1]). Thanks for the tip. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 23:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
The claim ... in 2004 he was estimated to be 66 years old, 27 feet (8.2 m) in length and to weigh around 2.5 tonne, making him the largest confirmed crocodile ever seen in Africa seems highly dubious.
  I saw the PBS show, and the croc they depicted was considerably longer than 21 feet.

~Just because you see something on TV and think its longer than the confirmed 21 footer doesn't mean its true humans are horrible at accurately estimating the size of giant reptiles the same problem can be attributed to animals such as reticulated pythons with one that was allegedly 49 feet but turned out to be only 22 feet long is a good example it shows even zoos will get it wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.100.52 (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The article on the Nile crocodile states: Males usually weigh about 500 lbs (225 kg), but very large & old specimens can reach up to 2000 lbs (909 kg). The largest accurately measured male was shot near Mwanza, Tanzania and measured 6.45 m (21.3 ft) and weighed approximately 1,090 kg (2,400 lb). "Gustave" - if he actually exists - cannot weigh two-and-a-half times as much. The same goes for his length: very nearly 6 feet longer than the largest specimen ever measured? This has to be exaggerated. Textor (talk) 09:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
That was vandalism from earlier today, since reverted. Thanks for the tip. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 09:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

well actually if you watch the video on him they say that he's never been captured or measured so his actuall size is unknow. and i dont think anyone has gotten close enough to see difference between 20, 21 or 22 feet. and his last sighting was in 2008 so he could be longer than 23 feet (record) by now.

~ 23 feet+? I doubt it the record is 21 feet and most niles caught in the wild measure 10-14 feet some exceed 17 feet and some freaks will hit 20 feet but its *VERY rare*. Maybe in the inaccessible parts of the african rainforests and swamps there are larger specimens perhaps 30 feet or longer.


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Is this vandalism? i cant find anything on this aspiazu.Fjoekjui 21:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I deleted it after I searched for "Aspiazu" and came up with nothing. I assume either its from the film or vandalism. Pflan88 22:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

"Even worse"?Edit

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 – Since removed. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 23:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

"Even worse, it is feared that Gustave is behind the death of four to six hippos. Gustave's physical appearance could scare even the most hardened inmates..."

It seems to me that this wording is not NPOV. --Neo3DGfx 17:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

And hilarious. Hes thought to kill about 300 humans, and even -gulp- SIX HIPPOS :O. lol 72.199.100.223 (talk) 06:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

no pictures?Edit

this croc is still out there and even has a documentary and a horror movie made about it....and we don't have one picture?


There are a couple on the web. Feel free to google some up and add them yourself.


Not sure if this helps, but there is a video of Gustave on Youtube.com. You simply have to type in "Giant Crocodiles" in the Search bar, and the video should be near the top of the list.

Toa of Gravity August 1, 2007

Also if you search up Gustave the crocodile on google (on web) there will be a web page all bout Gustave (its the first page they show u)--NayelyAce 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't have permission to add those photos, but we can add links. Chrisrus (talk) 04:44, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Unreferenced edits by Johnny542Edit

Removed until references can be provided:

He developed a taste for human flesh by feeding on dead bodies thrown into the water by a local warlord.
His huge size has allowed him to kill and eat an adult hippopotamus, a feat that would be impossible for smaller crocodiles. Since he is too big and heavy to catch smaller prey like small mammals and fish, he catches larger, heavier animals like wildebeast and zebra. Thanks to his thick, armored skin, he has also survived several attacks by humans wielding guns and knives.
It is considered if Gustave be protected instead of killed because the scientists say that he is one of a kind.

82.71.48.158 04:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

All those things are true. Just go to the websites and look it up. Also go to youtube and look up Gustave and I might even put in more websites to show you. Johnny542 12:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

YouTube is not a respected source last I checked, certainly not a 2nd hand account of what someone thought they saw Gustave do, nor do the respected sources mention him eating any hippo, and the theory that he may of moved on to humans from the corpses Rusizi, so there are no references for those things at the top Johnny boy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 07:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

YouTube videoEdit

Does anybody have a proper reference for the documentary excerpt from YouTube that is cited in the article? —MJBurrage(TC) 17:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

The obvious error about Gustave must be corrected. The article says Gustave is 6.70 meter long. Towards the end of the write-up, the saltwater croc is given as 7.0 meter long with a note in brackets "a meter longer than Gustave." How can that be, the length difference can only be 0.30 meter (7.0~6.7=0.30 m) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.99.203.184 (talk) 10:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

WeightEdit

This topic is very interesting. The weight of Gustave, just by viewing a number of videos, is clearly in excess of 2000 pounds. This is an exceptionally large Nile crocodile which typically are not as heavy as Australian salt water crocodiles which can go to 3000 pounds or more. I believe the estimated weight of Gustave should indicate "in excess of 1 ton" at least. The description of "around 1 ton" doesn't do justice to this massive animal. He probably is around 2400 pounds in my estimation.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.174.71 (talk) 06:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but per Wikipedia's policy on verifiability, the article can only include estimates that have been published in reliable sources. If you can find a reliable source that backs up your estimate, you're welcome to include it. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 08:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

"It was also commented that Gustave might be still aging"Edit

What does "Gustave might be still aging" mean? He's either dead or aging. Chrisrus (talk) 07:01, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I would like to know.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:26, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

More Information needs to be AddedEdit

This article is way too short and needs information on Gustave's history including sightings, attacks, and other important information. This important information needs to be added to the article so that it completely covers its subject and meets Wikipiedia's standards of a well developed article.--Paleface Jack (talk) 18:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Gustave ate part of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:7A00:F930:91CA:94C0:EF36:28CE (talk) 08:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)