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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because GiveDirectly has received serious review coverage (from GiveWell), they are in partnership with Innovations for Poverty Action, and they have received mentions in blogs and media (National Public Radio, Time Magazine, Center for Global Development blog, etc.). — Vipul (talk) 16:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Needs cleanup/trimming edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

The situation is the same on all the articles for GiveWell's recommended charities. The editor Vipul (or some of the editors who he pays to edit articles) have cluttered these articles with infodumps directly from the GiveWell website, so that the vast majority of references are to this one site. The articles are now filled with unnecessary tables and numbers. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a GiveWell clone. I edited these articles so that they'd be succinct summaries - appropriate to the notability of small nonprofits. Then Davidcpearce undid all my revisions. I want to avoid an edit war here, but I think it's clear that these articles need cleanup. Full disclosure: Vipul, Dave, and I all have connections to the effective altruism movement (though Dave is the most blatant with his pro-EA agenda in editing). Lrieber (talk) 00:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I agree, this article is not [from a WP:NPOV and is likely a copyright violation with the excessive detail from the website. Even if this organization does excellent work, there are WP policies about this. I've removed quite a bit from the page but likely more needs to be done to make it neutral and less reliant on primary sourcing. FuriouslySerene (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
I did a basic cleanup, with emphasis on removing the name of an evaluator added with COI; perhaps the introductory quotation should be summarized instead of quoted. DGG ( talk ) 09:03, 23 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Media coverage edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Moved here from the body of the article.

Sections like this are not encyclopedic. Fans and conflicted editors sometimes add sections like this to articles, modelling it on what companies and organizations do on their own websites. Wikipedia articles are not proxies for organization's websites.

Moved here, as perhaps encyclopedic content can be generated from some of these.

Media coverage
  • GiveDirectly was featured in a story on National Public Radio in August 2011;[1] in an article by Dana Goldstein in The Atlantic in December 2012;[2] in a Forbes magazine article by Kerry Dolan in May 2013;[3] and in a New York Times article in August 2013.[4]
  • GiveDirectly co-founder Paul Niehaus was interviewed for a story on cash transfers on BBC's NewsHour in January 2012[5] and there was a follow-up blog post by interviewer Duncan Green on his Oxfam blog.[6]
  • In 2013, Planet Money reporters David Kestenbaum and Jacob Goldstein went to Kenya to see GiveDirectly in action. Their findings and other critical commentary on GiveDirectly were featured in a segment of an episode of This American Life in August 2013.[7] A follow-up was published in October 2013.[8]
  • An article in The Economist on cash transfers in October 2013 discussed GiveDirectly's work in Kenya.[9] An article in Digital Journal published at the same time also reviewed GiveDirectly's work.[10]
  • In November 2013, a Freakonomics radio podcast between Stephen J. Dubner, Dean Karlan, and Richard Thaler about fighting poverty with evidence discussed GiveDirectly.[11]
  • Julia Kurnia, director of the direct person-to-person microfinance lending platform Zidisha wrote an op-ed in the Huffington Post in January 2014 criticizing GiveDirectly’s direct cash transfer approach on the grounds that it encourages a dependence mentality.[12]
  • In January 2014, an article in The Independent discussed GiveDirectly and what other charities thought of their cash transfer approach. The author concluded: "While Niehaus acknowledges cash transfers "won't change everything", he says he would like them to be seen as a "benchmark for development activity" everywhere. Let's hope that ambition is realised."[13]
  • In February 2014, Fast Company listed GiveDirectly as fourth on its list of the world's ten most innovative companies in finance, below Nice Systems, Square, and Bitcoin.[14]
  • On March 11, 2014, Kevin Starr and Laura Hattendorf of the Mulago Foundation wrote a lengthy article in the Stanford Social Innovation Review skeptical of GiveDirectly's accomplishment so far, saying that the evidence so far was underwhelming, though there might still be bigger gains a few years down the line. They contrasted GiveDirectly with other charities that they felt delivered more bang for the buck: VisionSpring, KickStart, and Proximity Designs.[15] Holden Karnofsky of GiveWell wrote a lengthy response countering that GiveDirectly's impact had been more rigorously established, and that Starr and Hattendorf were using flawed metrics to judge impact.[16] The GiveDirectly board independently published a response on the GiveDirectly blog.[17] Chris Blattman, an economist with experience in randomized controlled trials as well as knowledge of cash transfers, also responded to Starr and Hattendorf's post on SSIR.[18]
  • On June 4, 2015, Nico Pitney covered GiveDirectly favorably in an in-depth article for the Huffington Post.[19]
  • GiveDirectly received positive mentions in a blog post by Alex Tabarrok for the Marginal Revolution economics blog[20] and in multiple blog posts by Matthew Yglesias for the Moneybox blog of Slate Magazine.[21][22]
  • It also received mentions in a blog post by Jacquelline Fuller for the Harvard Business Review blog,[23] in a blog post by Michael Clemens for the Center for Global Development,[24] in a blog post by Vishnu Sridharan for the New America Foundation,[25] and in a blog post by Brad Tuttle for the Moneyland blog of Time magazine.[26]
  • In September 2015, Rosa Brooks wrote in favor of cash transfers in Foreign Policy, citing GiveDirectly’s model.[27]
  • In May 2016, after GiveDirectly announced their basic income experiment, Reuters wrote about the upcoming trial.[28]
  • In May 2016, The New Republic covered the use of cash transfers in international aid, featuring GiveDirectly.[28]
  • In November 2016, NPR covered Effective Altruism and featured GiveDirectly’s Ian Bassin in the context of holiday charitable giving.[29]
  • In March 2017, the BBC published a story by Alastair Leithead entitled "What happens when aid is given as direct cash transfers?"[30]
  • In March 2018, the BBC World Service radio program Global Business segment covered "Kenya's Basic Income Experiment."[31]

References

  1. ^ Goldstein, Jacob (2011-08-02). "A Charity That Just Gives Money To Poor People". Npr.org. Retrieved 2011-12-01.
  2. ^ Goldstein, Dana (2012-12-21). "Can 4 Economists Build the Most Economically Efficient Charity Ever?". The Atlantic. Retrieved 2012-12-21. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  3. ^ Dolan, Kerry (2013-05-28). "Why Facebook Cofounder Chris Hughes And Google Are Giving Cash Directly To The Poorest". Forbes. Retrieved 2013-05-30.
  4. ^ Goldstein, Jacob (2013-08-13). "Is It Nuts to Give to the Poor Without Strings Attached?". New York Times. Retrieved 2013-08-13. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  5. ^ "MP3 of interview of Paul Niehaus on cash transfers". Oxfam blogs.
  6. ^ Green, Duncan (2012-01-04). "Why don't we just send aid money directly to poor people's cellphones?". From Poverty to Power (Oxfam Blogs Network). Retrieved 2012-11-30.
  7. ^ "503: I Was Just Trying To Help". This American Life. 2013-08-16. Retrieved 2013-08-19. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  8. ^ Kestenbaum, David (2013-10-25). "What Happens When You Just Give Money To Poor People?". National Public Radio. Retrieved 2013-10-26. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  9. ^ "Pennies from heaven: Giving money directly to poor people works surprisingly well. But it cannot deal with the deeper causes of poverty". The Economist. 2013-10-26. Retrieved 2013-10-26. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  10. ^ Houser, Nancy (2013-10-25). "GiveDirectly charity provides free cash to extreme poor in Kenya". Digital Journal. Retrieved 2013-10-26.
  11. ^ Lechtenberg, Suzie (November 27, 2013). "Fighting Poverty With Actual Evidence: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast". Freakonomics. Retrieved December 1, 2013.
  12. ^ Kurnia, Julia (January 18, 2014). "About to send a donation? Think twice". Huffington Post. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  13. ^ Morrison, Sarah (January 23, 2014). "Direct debit: The charity GiveDirectly donates cash straight to people in need". The Independent. Retrieved March 30, 2014. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  14. ^ Miller, Nancy L. (February 10, 2014). "The World's Top 10 Most Innovative Companies in Finance. You'd think something as universal as money would be hassle-free to use. But with banks and card networks acting as invisible middlemen and imposing sizable exchange fees, some companies are creating radical new approaches to move cash from one place to another". Fast Company. Retrieved March 30, 2014. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  15. ^ Starr, Kevin; Hattendorf, Laura (March 11, 2014). "GiveDirectly? Not So Fast. We are mistaking an important experiment for a proven solution". Stanford Social Innovation Review. Retrieved March 11, 2014. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  16. ^ Karnofsky, Holden (March 20, 2014). "Big Impact vs. Big Promises". Stanford Social Innovation Review. Retrieved March 21, 2014. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  17. ^ "What's the hype evidence?". GiveDirectly (blog). March 17, 2014. Retrieved March 26, 2014.
  18. ^ Blattman, Chris (March 14, 2014). "Are Cash Transfers Overrated?". Stanford Social Innovation Review. Retrieved March 30, 2014. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  19. ^ Pitney, Nico (June 4, 2015). "This Startup Gives Poor People A Year's Income, No Strings Attached". Huffington Post. Retrieved June 5, 2015. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  20. ^ Tabarrok, Alex (2011-07-22). "Give Directly". Marginal Revolution (blog). Retrieved 2011-12-01.
  21. ^ Yglesias, Matthew (2012-12-25). "Fighting Poverty By Giving Poor People Money". Slate Magazine (Moneybox blog). Retrieved 2013-04-17. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  22. ^ Yglesias, Matthew (2013-05-29). "The Best and Simplest Way to Fight Global Poverty: Proof that giving cash to poor people, no strings attached, is an amazingly powerful tool for boosting incomes and promoting development". Slate Magazine (Moneybox blog). Retrieved 2013-11-21. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  23. ^ Fuller, Jacqueline (2013-03-28). "Want to Help People? Just Give Them Money". Harvard Business Review. Retrieved 2013-04-17. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  24. ^ Clemens, Michael (2011-09-30). "A New Kind of Overseas Charity Is Born". Global Development: Views from the Center. Retrieved 2011-12-01.
  25. ^ Sridharan, Vishnu (2012-01-12). "From your pocket to theirs: a new approach to charity". New America Foundation.
  26. ^ Tuttle, Brad (2011-08-03). "GiveDirectly: A Charity That Just Gives Money to Poor People, So They're Not So Poor". Moneyland, Time magazine. Retrieved 2011-12-01. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  27. ^ "Eat the Rich and Pay the Poor". Foreign Policy. Retrieved 2017-01-25.
  28. ^ a b "Want to Save the World? Try Using Cold Hard Cash". New Republic. 2016-05-24. Retrieved 2017-01-25.
  29. ^ "Choosing A Charity: Should You Go With Your Heart Or Your Head?". NPR.org. Retrieved 2017-01-25.
  30. ^ Leithead, Alastair (2017-03-01). "What happens when aid is given in cash?". BBC News. Retrieved 2018-04-01.
  31. ^ "Kenya's Basic Income Experiment, Global Business - BBC World Service". BBC. Retrieved 2018-04-01.

-- Jytdog (talk) 18:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

IMO this kind of material is almost always wholly promotional, which is why such content is explicitly listed at WP:Identifying PR#In the media and is considered WP:SYN and removed from other articles. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

{{COI}} edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Does having {{COI}} on this page make sense? I don't think Riceissa or Vipul technically ever had a conflict of interest with GiveDirectly—as far as I can tell, they're not employed by GiveDirectly, related to an employee of GiveDirectly, etc. It looks like the article is also a lot better than it was back when the COI was added, and it looks like the cleanup related to NPOV concerns has been completed. —Enervation (talk) 22:58, 3 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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