Talk:General classification in the Tour de France

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"The cyclist wearing the maillot jaune at the finish is the overall winner." I know what you're trying to say but this isn't actually true. The maillot only changes hands at the end of a stage, so the one actually waring the maillot might come in second as they cross the line. DJ Clayworth 13:34, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hopefully, my rewrite has fixed this. - IMSoP 23:10, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Insignia on maillot jaune?

Can anyone explain the significance of the script or "cursive" insignia on the shoulders of the maillot jaune in the Tour de France? The same insignia can be seen on the chest in older pictures of the jersey. It looks a bit like two letters, one is similar to a backwards "L" or perhaps the letters "de" and the other is similar to a "C" or a "G" on its side. Thanks!

It's 'HD', for 'Henri Desgrange'; I've added that to the article. - IMSoP 21:16, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC) [Not that, I must admit, it looks much like it; presumably it's in his hand-writing, but the 'D' appears to be sideways. *shrug*]

Why "jersey"?

The challenge I'd like to set (and I'll try to find out myself tomorrow) is where the translation "jersey" comes from - a jersey being rather a warm thing for an athlete to wear, is it not? But now I think about it, what do jerseys have to do with Jersey anyway? Still, I don't think it's very similar to the French, since maillot de bain is a swimming costume, which is far more similar. - IMSoP 23:10, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I believe it stems from the fact that prior to the development of the high-tech synthetic fabrics that are used to produce modern cycling garments they were made from lightweight (typically Merino) wools (wool having good wicking properties which lift sweat away from the skin helping to keep the athelete cool and dry).

"Jersey" is a British word for a sweater, which is what riders originally wore. Les woodland (talk) 10:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)les woodland

In the US, at least, "jersey" is commonly used to refer to a shirt worn by an athlete; in fact I'd say that any mention of the word "jersey" would be taken to mean such a garment. A sweater is a sweater. Wschart (talk) 16:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

List

I have made a list, from publicly available information, about how many yellow jerseys each rider got, since the 1994 tour. The result is on my user page. (moved in order to keep this page readable) Is there a database to finish this list, and is this list appropriate for this article? --Pie.er 08:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC).

I think the list is very valuable, but I think the list should be kept in a seperate article, because it is (as I understand it) a list of the maillots jaune in the Tour de France, while some other rounds use it as well, and because lists of this kind can clutter up regular articles. I don't know of any database, but you could try the articles on the seperate Tours de France. SQB 07:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. I moved the list to my userspace. The articles on seperate Tours were useful for the last years, but not 1993 or earlier... Thanks anyway! --Pie.er 09:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC).

Table removed from main page

I removed this as it's a list of Tour winners, not of holders of maillots jaunes in general, and anyway doesn't list everyone who's held the maillot jaune in the Tour. For added excitement, some of the years listed are from before the yellow jersey was invented. But here it is anyway, for posterity:

Repeat winners

Rank	Rider	Wins	Years
1	Lance Armstrong	7	1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
2	Jacques Anquetil	5	1957, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964
	Eddy Merckx	5	1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1974
	Bernard Hinault	5	1978, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1985
	Miguel Indurain	5	1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995
6	Philippe Thys	3	1913, 1914, 1920
	Louison Bobet	3	1953, 1954, 1955
	Greg LeMond	3	1986, 1989, 1990
9	Lucien Petit-Breton	2	1907, 1908
	Firmin Lambot	2	1919, 1922
	Ottavio Bottecchia	2	1924, 1925
	Nicolas Frantz	2	1927, 1928
	André Leducq	2	1953, 1932
	Antonin Magne	2	1931, 1934
	Sylvère Maes	2	1936, 1939
	Fausto Coppi	2	1949, 1952
	Bernard Thévenet	2	1975, 1977
	Laurent Fignon	2	1983, 1984

Winners by Nation

Rank	Country	Most Prolific Winner	Most Recent Winner	Wins
1	France	Jacques Anquetil, Bernard Hinault (5)	Bernard Hinault 1985	36
2	Belgium	Eddy Merckx (5)	Lucien Van Impe 1976	18
3	United States	Lance Armstrong (7)	Floyd Landis 2006 (contested)	11
4	Italy	Ottavio Bottecchia, Fausto Coppi (2)	Marco Pantani 1998	9
5	Spain	Miguel Indurain (5)	Miguel Indurain 1995	8
6	Luxembourg	Nicolas Frantz (2)	Charly Gaul 1958	4
7	Netherlands	Jan Janssen, Joop Zoetemelk	Joop Zoetemelk 1980	2
	Switzerland	Ferdinand Kübler, Hugo Koblet	Hugo Koblet 1951	2
9	Ireland	Stephen Roche	Stephen Roche 1987	1
	Denmark	Bjarne Riis	Bjarne Riis 1996	1
	Germany	Jan Ullrich	Jan Ullrich 1997	1

--Mike 10:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Etape without the yellow jersey

In 1991, Rolf Sørensen crashed 10km from the finish line. In the crash Rolf broke his collar bone and his bike. Rolf continued on a bike given to him by a team mate and managed to continue to the finish line and keep the yellow jersey. His injury didn't allow him to continue in the race though. In the next etape, Greg Lemond was allowed to ride without the yellow jersey. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xylifyx (talk • contribs) 15:05, July 29, 2007.

The man who didn't get a maillot jaune

Section posted with disputed tag.

Some of the topics brought up in this section are unfound and either require contextual backup or need to be removed. --Pandawelch (talk) 12:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Article tone/style

This article seems to be written in a rather lyrical tone, which contrasts a bit from the more dry tone of most Wikipedia articles. Not sure if this needs fixing though. 67.188.230.128 (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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How many yellow jerseys?

It isn't made very clear (maybe it is and I've missed it), but does each rider have their own yellow jersey in their own size, that they wear if they are eligible for it? Or is it the same jersey that gets passed around between them on different days/stages? How would this work with sizes also? Not all cyclists are going to wear the same size, so there must be several of them? 78.152.199.172 (talk) 12:24, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there are lots of yellow jerseys. It's a symbol, not a specific jersey. I would even expect them to get a brand new one to wear every day. The article does actually say "he then receives three further jerseys each day". It also says "For many years the jersey was made in only limited sizes and many riders found it a struggle to pull one on", indicating several sizes. But still the question is interesting and worth mentioning more directly and in more detail, and of course that means actually finding reliable sources for it. Jhertel (talk) 20:03, 28 June 2023 (UTC)