Talk:Gas stove

Latest comment: 8 months ago by ZL3XD in topic Original Aga not a gas cooker

Vandalism edit

I suspect links to "Jewish" and "Hitler" constitute vandalism. Certainly without any context they seem out of place as links from this page.

I tend to agree. Reverted.LizardJr8 (talk) 05:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Safety edit

Microwave ovens are relatively safer than gas stoves. However, there are significant observations about microwave oven hazards in the article about them, but nothing here about the dangers of gas stoves. 201.36.232.9 (talk) 19:19, 8 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Original Aga not a gas cooker edit

'A high-end gas stove called the AGA cooker was invented in 1922 by Swedish Nobel prize winner Gustaf Dalén.'

You can now buy AGAs fuelled by gas, but I don't think that the original was - citation needed here! 109.144.216.156 (talk) 00:51, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Original Aga cookers were fuelled by wood or coal. ZL3XD (talk) 11:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Heating, not cooking edit

There also seem to be gas stoves used for heating, as alternatives to wood-burning stoves. We need to find some refs and include this. In the longer term such content is possibly best as a separate article, as they serve such differing purposes. -- Trevj (talk) 11:14, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

How sad edit

What a sad little article this is. The brief leading paragraph states that "most modern stoves come in a unit with with built-in extractor hoods". I have never seen a gas stove here in the UK with its own hood. Many people fit a hood over cookers of all types - to remove grease, smells etc - but that is part of the overall kitchen, not the gas cooker.

The whole section about Aga cookers is redundant as they were not powered by gas until 1968 (and oil-fired in 1964) with the decline in solid fuel according to www.agaliving.com

The longest section is about various types of ignition and could easily be shortened to half its current length.

A major factor in the acceptance of the gas cooker was the introduction of the oven thermostat in 1915 (or 1923, according to the National Gas Museum) which allowed cooking at a selectable temperature. This is not even mentioned. www.greatachievements.org/?id=3771 http://nationalgasmuseum.org.uk/cooking-with-gas/

82.31.154.124 (talk) 13:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC) MoriartyReply

Organization of article edit

The article currently covers some aspects of the topic in some detail (like ignition methods), while other aspects aren't really addressed at all (like efficiency). Here's how I imagine the article could be organized with additional content:

  • Uses (as kitchen stove, most commonly with 4 burners possibly combined with a gas oven, but also camp stoves, heaters, others?)
  • History
  • Gas supply
  • Ignition methods
    • Manual ignition
    • Pilot light
    • Electric ignition and auto reignition
  • Safety
  • Efficiency
  • Comparison with other types of stoves

Krubo (talk) 10:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Efficiency edit

I don't think it makes a lot of sense just to compare how efficient the energy of the gas is used in comparison with electric. Because you must also consider the efficiency of generating electricity forna fair comparison. This is about 30% on average, which reduces the overall efficiency of an electric stove to about 21%. MrBurns (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I don’t agree with your argument, because not all electricity is generated from gas, but I do think the efficiency section should be deleted as not important enough to be in the article. Also not many readers will understand "±0.5% repeatability". Chidgk1 (talk) 15:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
30% is about the average over all sour es of electricity. --MrBurns (talk) 19:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
If you have time please comment in the section below thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Should the efficiency section be deleted? edit

Yes because it is either confusing or useless to readers I think Chidgk1 (talk) 16:15, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Nobody replied so I deleted it Chidgk1 (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm going to re-add the section without the electricity comparison. I read somewhere that gas power plants in the U.S. ran at 32% efficiency, often using open cycle-modes in combined cycle plants to load follow. Don't remember the source, could be wrong. Note that some grids have little gas/fossil fuel (France is 70% nuclear, Canada is mostly hydro and nuclear etc).
I'll add discussion of Japanese gas burners that angle the burner up towards the pot. Oceanic albatross (talk) 06:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I would like other people to comment on this - anyone? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I think the current wording is fine. Reywas92Talk 14:44, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply