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POV pushing or edit war ? edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

Well, I do not know if it is woth starting an edit war over the inclusion of the loaded term "peacefully" when describing the boarding of a ship by soldiers in international waters. Wikipedia must present a Neutral Point of View, and care must be taken even when working with reliable sources like the NY Times (see Wikipedia:Neutrality of sources#Reliable sources may be non-neutral).

That being said, Averysoda has violated the 1R rule, and seems to be starting an edit war. I suggest that he revert his own edit, and we discuss the appropriateness of the term "peacefully" before getting into a fight. GastelEtzwane (talk) 11:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

AverySoda violated no rule. The 1RR restriction does not apply to reverting anonymous IP editors. I think your advice to discuss before reverting is a good one. I wonder why you did not follow this advice when you reverted me here. All Rows4 (talk) 15:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Where did I violate 1RR? This is my first revert and, 24 hours later, this is the second one. I think you don't understand what 1RR means. By the way, as All Rows4 already mentioned, reverting IPs doesn't count towards 1RR of ARBPIA.--Averysoda (talk) 01:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC) Reply

To me it looks like you are a fan of wikilawyering. I am sorry, I will not go down that path with you.

I did give you a few links to help you understand why one has to be careful in using news articles as source material. On top of it all, the article does not once use the term "peacefully". You must know, I hope, that when a journalist may write a balanced article, he or she often has little say in the wording of the title. For that reason, a newspaper article's title should not be used as a source for wikipedia.

What the article does say is:

Israeli naval forces boarded the Marianne and searched it in international waters without needing to use any force, the military said.

That does not mean that is was peaceful.

GastelEtzwane (talk) 14:02, 8 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

I split the sentence in two, seperation the interception (which is a fact) and the claims made by the Israeli military (which are disputed as per the video mentioned). GastelEtzwane (talk) 12:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

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