Talk:Filet-O-Fish

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The best thing on the menu, definitely.

"The ingredients of Filet-O-Fish are likely close to the McNuggets', only substituting chicken for fish." - This seems highly dubious. Arash Keshmirian 09:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

any chance of a source for the Catholic / fish thing - was it really this that MacDonalds based their decision on?

-Yes and no; the Filet-O-Fish was first created by a franchise owner in the Cincinnati area named Lou Groen. He created the sandwich so he'd have something to sell to the large Catholic and of Irish/German descent communities in southern Ohio / Northern Kentucky. Corporate bought the rights to use the sandwich and still pays royalities to Lou and his family (they still own a large number of franchises in the Greater Cincy area, I believe).

The sandwich is also in no way related to McNuggets...

I would also like to dispute the idea that the use of mayonase leaves any kind of unpleasant taste. I think this is bad for the mayo industry as a whole, and I think this is a matter of opinion versus a fact to be included in an encyclopedia. I think the taste of mayo makes Filet-O-Fish even better.

If you think it is so, but the in the people who I have talked to the general consensus has been that mayonnaise ruins the taste of the fish and that tartar sauce is a much better sauce. Also I am not specifically attacking mayonnaise, only when it is being served with the Filit-O-Fish Ghingo

vandalism?

can anyone confirm the latest anonymous edit with the 2006 "viral website"? I dont know if "viral website" is meaningful, and a source should be added to confirm this statement. Finally, since it is not directly related to the product, it should maybe go into a separate subsection ("trivia" or so). — MFH:Talk 04:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

The website was made directly as a promotional tool for the Filet-o-fish: it is directly related, so in my opinion should not go under trivia but remain where it is. Ghingo [ Filet - o - Fish are yummy ] :D

there was just some bit about how guys who eat it give off a smell that gets them laid, was unsourced, removed (probably vandalism)173.48.62.136 (talk) 05:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

halal?

the references to halal food and muslims eating filet o fish look spurious to me. raining girl 20:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems to boil down to whether certain types of fish are considered halal or haram; this isn't something that is universally agreed upon by all Muslims. The type of fish used in the "Filet-o-Fish" varies from country to country anyway, and in McDonalds in Muslim countries of course all of the menu items are halal. AdorableRuffian 10:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

It seems there are several sites, seemingly quoting McDonalds, in saying that the Fillet O Fish is NOT halal as it gets cross-contaminated. If someone can find an authoritative source on this then the article should be updated. 89.105.29.22 (talk) 10:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

looks like it's a myth http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/whatmakesmcdonalds/questions/food/halal/is-the-filet-o-fish-halal-is-it-prepared-in-lard.html 89.105.29.22 (talk) 10:36, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Added information on occurance of any animal ingredients and alcohol. Added a mention of it being Kosher in UAE; it is in SA too. McD in other countries don't bother with certification.--Artoria2e5 🌉 06:54, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Pronunciation of "Filet-O-Fish"

In some non-English-speaking countries, it is called a FishMac or a McFish.

At least that is easier to pronounce! How does one pronounce "Filet"... is it "fee-ay", "fill-ay", or "fill-utt"?

The spelling "fillet" (two Ls) is always pronounced "fill-utt" (or "fill-itt") here in the UK, but "filet" sounds French so it feels as if it should be pronounced that way. Then again, McDonald's is American, so I don't really know.

I much prefer "McFish" :-)

AdorableRuffian 10:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

My U.S. experience has always been "fill-ay." ...Posting on a Wikipedia article talk page about the Filet-O-Fish, good lord, what am I doing with my life?--4.245.23.94 09:35, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I've lived in the UK my whole life, and I've only ever heard very young children sounding the word out call it a fill-itt or fill-ett. Everyone I know calls it a fill-ay, and that's based on Cambridgeshire where I go to university and London and Hertfordshire where I grew up. And in 20 years of living in the UK, I've never heard fill-utt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.97.131 (talk) 08:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

This is contradicted by the fillet (cut) article, which gives "fill-itt" as the correct pronunciation for British English (the OED agrees). Comments on the talk page suggest "fill-itt" is how it is pronounced in Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand too. That's assuming you're talking about fillets in general, rather than the Filet-O-Fish or, say, filet mignon. 217.155.20.163 (talk) 03:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I've only ever heard it called "filet" (filay). Here in Canada the noun is pronounced 'filay' and the verb is pronounced fill-it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.199.227 (talk) 23:31, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Photograph

Is this diseased-looking thing an accurate representation of this menu item? I feel queasy just looking at it. 217.155.20.163 22:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, yes it is. TehPhil 14:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I've never seen a Filet-o-Fish look like that. Mrtea (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I agree. This is a horrible photo. It almost appears as if the steamed bun had been sitting out for a while, possibly under some dry heat, breaking the outer bun. Certainly there are others available for use? Roboleg (talk) 08:59, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The picture needs to be updated since only a half of a slice of cheese is normally served on the sandwich. Even the website photo depicts this. Dsafford (talk)

Pineapple burger

The CNBC program "Big Mac: Inside the McDonald's Empire" featured an interview that stated that Ray Kroc was originally going to sell a burger with pineapple and cheese, thinking the Filet-O-Fish would not sell. In result, both were sold at the same time to see which customers would choose. In result, it was the Filet-O-Fish. This information is honest and true, if you don't believe me, watch the "Big Mac: Inside the McDonald's Empire" program, CNBC airs it occasionally. 70.186.202.243 (talk) 17:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Cheese slice

In Canada, each Filet-O-Fish sandwich only contains half a slice of processed cheese. Is this also the case in the U.S. and elsewhere? -- 24.212.139.20 (talk) 00:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

A kosher sandwich?

This may be a bit over technical, but is the statement, "For example, in Judaism, the fish used in the sandwich is considered kosher even without special preparation, whilst other meats would require special slaughter techniques to be considered kosher," misleading? Even if the fish patty itself is considered kosher, is the sandwich? Should that be made clear? __209.179.0.121 (talk) 19:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I cannot find a good source on it being Kosher that I can read. It is the "most kosher non-kosher food" according to someone writing on tablet mag, with non-kosher referring to lack of certification and the entire shared kitchen thing. I don't read Hebrew or Arabic, so the McDonald's Israel website does not help at all either. So it all boils down to personal judgement, I think. (As an agnostic, I do find the idea of everyone sharing a nice fish sandwich that their God approves of quite nice.) --Artoria2e5 🌉 07:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

kcal

never mind

tharsaile (talk) 22:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2019

The last sentence of the article reads, "In 2019 McDonald send a cease-and-desist letter to small Canadian restaurant over the use of the term Filet-O-Fish, claiming that it is a registered trademark." The restaurant chain is called "McDonald's" not "McDonald." The sentence also contains multiple typos (no comma after 2019, "send," which should probably be "sent," and no article before the noun "restaurant"). Moreover, McDonald's claimed that the restaurant's use of the term "Effing Filet O' Fish" to describe its fish sandwich violated McDonald's registered trademark, which is actually "Filet-O-Fish."

So the section should read: "In 2019, McDonald's sent a cease-and-desist letter to a small Canadian restaurant that was selling a fish sandwich it called the 'Effing Filet O' Fish.' McDonald's claimed that the restaurant's use of that term violated McDonald's registered 'Filet-O-Fish' trademark. In response, the restaurant agreed to stop using 'Filet O' Fish' to describe its fish sandwich." Aschepler (talk) 02:02, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done: see Special:Diff/922906405. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 02:21, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

McMariner

On the 1974 menu for the UK's first McDonald's there's a fish burger called "McMariner" - was this the Filet-O-Fish under an alternative name or a different fish sandwich? Timrollpickering (talk) 15:46, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Smell

Does fish patty smells? 2405:205:C906:3E36:B8D9:1739:2B57:6493 (talk) 09:40, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Burger

I made this edit [1] because that content was way off in the WP:LEAD. WP:OVERCITE may be an issue as well. And possibly some WP:SYNTH. Related discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_it_okay_to_use_Daily_Mail_as_a_source_for_the_fact_that_the_McDonald's_Filet-o-Fish_is_considered_a_"burger"_in_Australia?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Also, the long quotes and the bold text in the "burger" refs comes across as overkill. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

So, if you look at other cases where things are called by different words in different national varieties of English–for example, petrol or diaper, we generally mention those differences quite early in the article – near the very start, or at least in one of the earlier sections. Even though the Filet-o-Fish is obviously of American origin, the fact that whether it is considered a sandwich or a burger varies between different national varieties of English ought to be mentioned relatively early. Especially since, whichever you call it, is likely to confuse speakers of other varieties of English who use the other term, and may not have a good understanding of the fact that different English varieties use those words in different ways. (By contrast, what it might be called in other languages is far less significant for the English Wikipedia, and belongs much further down the article, if it belongs at all; in that language's Wikipedia, that issue should be mentioned much sooner, if it it needs to be mentioned at all.) My motivation for this, is I found the existing article was written for an American English reader, and was not considering the needs of non-American English-speakers (it is okay, given this is an American product, to prefer American English in the article, but in doing so we need to explain to non-American readers aspects of American usage with which they may be unfamiliar) – which I think is another aspect of Wikipedia's widespread WP:BIAS problem. Mr248 (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2022

Spelling mistake in society and culture section under Religious Observation , "Christians" misspelled as "Christrians" Shrossen (talk) 22:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done Happy Editing--IAmChaos 04:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism?

It states that the French version of the burger the McFish has tartare sauce instead of ketchup? But don't they have tartare sauce everywhere and never have ketchup? 2A00:23C7:2B8C:3201:EA25:A49A:DA50:CCB (talk) 20:46, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

By saying "substitutes ketchup for tartar sauce" I think it could mean either tartar sauce → ketchup, which was what was intended, or vice versa. I edited it for clarification. –CWenger (^ • @) 21:56, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

edit protection

Just wondering why this article of all things has extended protection? PRTheodore (talk) 02:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

It gets vandalized a lot. Check the history. –CWenger (^ • @) 02:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Seems like kind of a random article to vandalize. I asked the same thing on the article on Caracalla, and they said the same thing. PRTheodore (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

PRTheodore, normal people cannot understand why vandals get obsessed with certain articles. This one has been vandalized repeatedly going back to 2017. A far more obscure article, Aglet, has been vandalized off and on for nearly 15 years. Cullen328 (talk) 17:21, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

That one I can understand, because the term "Aglet" was made much more well-known by a Disney cartoon from about that time. PRTheodore (talk) 18:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Smaller

This doesn’t mention how it’s smaller again. They’re definitely not using the 1997 sized patty anymore. 2601:281:8000:293:A5B2:B28F:7F68:D079 (talk) 07:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/mcdonalds-quietly-changed-the-filet-o-fish-and-people-are-not-happy-about-it/ar-BB1j4hw9 Angloguy (talk) 03:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)