Talk:Fifth-wheel coupling

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I found this article explaining origins of the term "5th wheel" - and it makes a lot of sense, because it was really a fifth wheel, including tire

But I have no way to establish if it is just a legend. HTH —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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(I haven't checked to see who wrote this message in the first place. — (talk) 23:44, 21 February 2012 (UTC))

US Patent office issued patent # 87,429 dated March 2, 1869 To Henry Poth and G. A. Klages for:

Improved Fifth Wheel for Carriages

This is 40 years prior than your reference. j.r. brennan


With that being said, Alaskan Dick Rubbins' maintains he invented the device. Engaged in a long time feud with Martin, Rubbins also claims the Martin not only stole his invention, but his wife. Always eccentric, Rubbins passed in 1996 and requested a controversial epitaph in his last will and testament. His tombstone reads: "Here lies Dick Rubbins, Inventor of the fifth wheel and holder of 17 other patents. I requested to buried face down, so that Charles Martin can kiss my royal Irish ass."

I removed this since there is no reference whatsoever for it. This sounds like it might be true, but it is also similar to the style of an urban legend. If you have a reference for this then by all means put it back in to the article with that reference.

I searched the web and found nothing to corroborate this, so I am skeptical.

Nick Beeson (talk) 13:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


When I worked as a truck driver in northern England in the 70s we called this the turntable. AdeMiami (talk) 17:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


As it is now written, this article is utter swill. It reads like it was written by a five-year-old. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 01:02, 15 July 2017 (UTC)