Talk:Emperor of Russia

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Latest comment: 10 months ago by Born2cycle in topic Requested move 6 May 2023

Pretenders edit

There have been many discussions so I don’t know if this was one of them but why does the Russian Emperor article’s infobox list 2 pretends and the infobox on House of Romanov list 3? GamerKlim9716 (talk) 18:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 6 May 2023 edit

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The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposition. (non-admin closure) В²C 04:57, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply


Emperor of all the RussiasEmperor of Russia – The translation of the Russian "Император Всероссийский" would be closer to something like "Emperor of all Russia" or "All-Russian Emperor", but in English, the WP:COMMONNAME would just be "Emperor of Russia". The more literal translations can be mentioned in the lead. See Ngram as an example of usage. "Autocrat" is also used in the title but can be mentioned in the lead. Mellk (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Support. The current title is not only quirky sounding, it’s not even a good translation. As far as I can tell, vserossiiskii is literally “all-Russian” (in the sense of state, not nation), and makes no reference to plural Russias.  —Michael Z. 14:11, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
support per nom—blindlynx 14:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. It's a better title and is probably commoner, but I would point out that the formal title is commonly translated as "Emperor of all the Russias", so the current title is not really quirky or wrong. It appears in many, many English-language sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:23, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
    I’m aware it appears in sources, but that doesn’t prevent it from being absolutely quirky (a kind evaluation of the imperial concept of “the Russias”), nor from being an absolutely a less accurate translation (wrong) for the sake of some poetic nostalgia for the great days of empires, or whatever the heck.  —Michael Z. 15:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
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