Talk:Elitism

Elitism

Why do you refuse to discuss your edits,and instead claim I am the "North Carolina" vandal and "Remington and the Rattlesnakes"? I will not tolerate this from the Wikiquinns. I know Remington, but he is too low-class to be my friend, although we are both involved in this stupid dispute.

Jake Remington

Synth

The "synth" flag couldn't be more true.

What needs to happen, I suspect, is that the first half of the lead needs to begin "In sociology, elitism is ..." followed by some stiff academic credos, and then the second half of the lead needs to begin "In contemporary culture, elitism is ..." and then we can on with carving the east coast Kennedys and the west coast Zuckerbergs a new one (don't be fooled by deep south W's cowboy boots—it's a trap!) — MaxEnt 19:14, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Actually, a third "in politics" definition might not hurt: any form of government of the many by the few is implicitly elitist. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita's conception of the selectorate is surely worth a lead mention. And maybe also a fourth definition "in celebrity culture" covering actors, artists, musicians, athletes, and impresarios. Turns out, there's an elite wherever an itch is scratched. — MaxEnt 19:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Lead sentence

the lead sentence should be brief, which it is not in the current state and may be confusing. The oxford dictionary definition seems to serve a better starting point and perhaps the lead can be summarized as such. Otherwise it just seems like another long sentence with no citation Princeton wu (talk) 09:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Anti-elitism

At present, there is a section on anti-elitism in the article, and Anti-elitism exists as a redirect to that section. The purpose of this redirect is currently being discussed by the Wikipedia community. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this redirect's entry on the Redirects for discussion page.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Elite is an adjective, not a noun.

The word elite is an obvious adjective. When I was young it would only be used to modify nouns, for example, Mark Spitz is an elite athlete. Since then, the spelling of the word itself has been borrowed and modified by simply placing an 'ist' or 'ism'. The origins of this new noun are entirely political in nature and it is used as a pejorative noun. It's purpose is for the listener to mentally group large numbers of people together, (whether they actually exist or not) to bond with the speaker and have a common enemy to target for the members of the real group (the ones conversing).

Members of all political parties and special interests do this and it creates conflict. Over use of these adjective->to->noun words promotes political escalation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3D1:1990:C08C:2308:38CF:B33D (talk) 18:32, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

2600:1702:3d1:1990:c08c:2308:38cf:b33d claimed "It is a new word created by borrowing the adjective 'elite', and modified into a noun by the right to mask their own 'racial heirarchialism'."[1]

Merriam-Webster says that the word "Elitism" dates from 1947, and meant "leadership or rule by an elite".

Merriam-Webster says that the word "Elite" as a noun dates from 1823, and as an adjective dates from 1808.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:11, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Hipsters, etc.

There should be a section devoted to how the world has and is becoming more and more elitist (housing crisis, class disparity, etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.58.104.26 (talk) 11:33, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

In Archaic Societies

To claim that deference granted by hereditary right only occurs in archaic societies seems grossly inaccurate. Many still define others by lineage in the most developed countries. It is rather that perhaps celebrity dynasties have taken over from aristocratic ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4425:FE01:F1E0:1BC:AA94:122B (talk) 11:22, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

"Academic elitism" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Academic elitism. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 14#AcademicElitism until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Elitism model

Consequences of elitism model of decision making in the implementation of the on going programs for educational development and improvement in Tanzania 156.158.128.232 (talk) 17:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

First sentence doesn't make sense.

"Elitism is the belief or notion that individuals who form an elite, a select group of people with intrinsic and desirable quality such as high intellect, wealth, power, physical attractiveness, notability, special skills, experience, lineage, and other desirable traits."

Basically it says "X is the belief that individuals who form a Y."

Recently it got edited by cutting down some parts of the sentence. That pre-edit sentence actually used to make sense. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elitism&diff=1218790389&oldid=1210654875 LowerEntropy (talk) 14:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)