Talk:El Corte Inglés

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Celavin in topic Court or cut?

Court or cut? edit

Its cut not court It refers to the english cut on clothes suits dresses jackets. Corte can be translated as both court and cut. The first significance seems more straightforward for a department store however. I looked on the linked history pages, but the links seem to be dead. Maybe a Spaniard should give definitive advice here. LHOON 16:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Give it started life as a tailors, cut seems more likely. Noisy | Talk 16:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Yes and, besides, the other meaning is not possible in the grammatical context imposed by the masculine definite article el, because corte meaning "court" is a feminine noun (i.e. it would have to be la corte and not el corte). However, I doubt that translating it as cut would be appropriate here because it wouldn't be idiomatic in English. I mean the Spanish word in this context is associated with the expression corte y confección meaning dressmaking; i.e., in Spanish it is clear the name refers to cutting clothes and reflects its origin as a tailor shop. While I don't think a literal translation as "The English Cut" would easily imply the dressmaking context that is implied in Spanish. That's why maybe a translation as "The English Dressmaking", even though not strictly literal, would better convey the idea of what a Spanish speaker readily understands from the Spanish name. Uaxuctum 12:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
Uaxuctum is totally right. Cut here refers to "Corte y Confección", which means "Dressmaking". The origin of the name is related to a style in dress making which is known, at least here in Spain, as "English Style". Given that Ramón Areces had a taylor shop, the correct meaninng for "corte" is "cut". I'm not a native English speaker, but "The English Cut" sounds horrible to me. "The English Dressmaking" sounds much better. I'd leave it as it is right now in the article. Gololo 22 August 2006
I'm a native English speaker, and "The English Cut" sounds horrible to me too. ;) - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
How about the English style instead of English cut? The English cut sounds like circumcision to me.
"The English Dressmaking" sounds far worse to me. I don't think "cut" sounds bad; there is even an apparently well respected tailor who uses www.englishcut.com as his webpage/blog. I always thought the "corte" in "El Corte Inglés" referred to the cut of a suit or such, an "English style/cut"; but it's certain that the name refers ro dressmaking (corte y confección) rather than the cut of a suit / an "English style", then? Shadowcrow (talk) 01:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
Just wanted to add that I tried googling for the origins of the name; while I didn't find anything concrete, at least it seems that the Spanish have, indeed, talked of clothing of the "English cut", and some feel that the name of El Corte Inglés would refer directly to this, not so much "dressmaking" ("corte y confección"). Shadowcrow (talk) 02:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
@LHOON "El corte" as a masculine noun in Spanish translates to "the cut" or "the style." It does not translate to "the court." "La corte" as a feminine noun translates to "the court." The name "El Corte Inglés" comes from the chain's origins as a single tailor shop. Celavin (talk) 07:58, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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1) I agree that the best translation is "The English Style."

2) While El Corte Ingles is known in all of Spain as the country's only full service department store chain, calling it a basic part of Spanish culture is pretty ridiculous.

3) El Corte Ingles also owns significant shares of other Spanish companies, such as Iberia. Somebody less lazy than me ought to look this up and find out exactly what they own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.158.121 (talk) 12:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

The English Cut edit

speak to the sisters Koplowitz as they are the owners. It means The English Cut. it is in fact NOT the largest store but the largest physical store. as of 2007 more spanish buy through e bay than ECI.eci should improve its online presence to create an ECI bay... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murcia fluent (talkcontribs) 12:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

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I noticed that the Spanish page had a lot more information so I decided to translate some of it. I'll be adding some paragraphs so if anyone has any comments or corrections please let me know. Chagropango (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)Reply