Talk:DuckTales (video game)

Composer

The composer is listed in the Infobox and the Reception section to be Yoshihiro Sakaguchi. Perhaps in the Gameboy platform this is true. But I really thought that David Wise composed the soundtrack in the NES version. I know it doesn't list DuckTales in the Video Game Credits in David Wise's article, but I swear that I heard somewhere that he had at least something to do with the Duck Tales (NES) soundtrack. Maybe he and Sakguchi collaborated on the NES title. Perhaps it used to say that in his Wikipedia article, I don't know...Somebody please set me straight. The method of "setting me straight" can range from anything from, "Sorry, dude. You are mistaken; that is all there is to it," to "Wise played a very minor role in the composition of DuckTales". Thanks! 24.10.181.254 (talk) 01:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Almost certainly not Wise, who was working for Rare at the time, and has never done the music for any Capcom game. However, it wasn't Yoshihiro Sakaguchi either, who has gone on record as saying that he handled the sound programming, but not the music. The current theory seems to be that Manami Matsumae was the actual composer, but there's no confirmation of that (or anyone else) as yet.--86.129.5.237 (talk) 23:00, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I've talked to Manami Matsumae and she confirmed to me that it is Hiroshige Tonomura. Dissident93 (talk) 23:43, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Potentially useful sources

GT did a video on the Moon level on Ducktales for their Level segment, the video covers a lot of basic information about the game as well as some other aspects.

• "Duck Tales: The Moon". Level. GameTrailers. 2011. Retrieved 1 January 2012. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Also, Screwattack rated the moon theme as the 6th best video game theme ever.

• "Top 10 Video Game Themes Ever". Screwattack. GameTrailers. 2008. Retrieved 2 January 2012. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

AerobicFox (talk) 02:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

DuckTales: Remastered

The game is nearing release, so I've moved it to its own page and removed it from this one. Please help reformat and reword the page over at DuckTales: Remastered. Thanks. Havok (T/C/e/c) 09:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

The game does not have enough info on its own to require its own page. It is fine to stay on this page in a subsection. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:52, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, reverted. :) 85.196.121.142 (talk) 18:27, 1 August 2013 (UTC) EDIT: Forgot to login. Havok (T/C/e/c) 18:29, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

If Dark Souls II is a big enough article to stand on its own. Then this is too. Like I stated in my revert summary: This game might be based on a reboot, but it's still its own game with new content and changes. Havok (T/C/e/c) 18:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

That is a weak argument comparing it to Dark Souls II. It's not a mater of content size, it's the type of content and what the game is. The game you argued is a new game, which is a full fledge sequel. This game, is a remake of an old one, which can be mentioned as it was in a section, on the original game's page. Think of it similarly to New Super Luigi U. Also, I am reverting back to it being a section, until we can reach a consensus. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, a better one. This is a reboot. Much like The Girls with the Dragon Tattoo is a reboot/remake of the Swedish movie Män som hatar kvinnor. The Fincher movie is basically a carbon copy of the Swedish movie. So with your reasoning, the Fincher movie should be a sub-section of the Swedish movie. Which it's not, because the movie has new creative talent behind it. Just like DuckTales: Remastered. It's created by a new team, that have put a lot of effort and love into this remake to make it stand on its own two palamte, so yeah, it actually does deserve its own article. Havok (T/c/e) 19:03, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, this section, which is a stub, does not pass this guideline for a game's own article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:57, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

That is a guideline, not a rule. And exactly which part of the guideline doesn't DuckTales: Remastered fill as being a separate article? If you can verify enough information to write a non-stub section about the distinct reception of a video game remake, currently the separate article has over 10 references to its notability. Havok (T/c/e) 19:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Here is the statement, with my added emphasis: If you can verify enough information to write a non-stub section about the distinct reception of a video game remake, as well as a non-stub section about its distinct game development or design, then the remake will qualify for its own article. However, having a separate article should not endanger the notability of the parent article. If there is not enough distinct information on the remake for a complete article, the few distinct aspects of the remake should be covered in the original game's article.

The game has not had any distinct reception yet, beside reporters at news agencies being excited that the game is being made, bring back fond memories. So at the moment, it fails that. The game does not have any distinct game development or design that is not already mentioned in the section. The gameplay is the same as it was in the original version, and we have one sentence describing the changes that were made. How much more can be expanded from that? That one sentence says it all. As such, all the distinct aspects (it being an HD remake, has most original voice actors, gameplay tweaks that include expanded levels, and the art design) are all mentioned in the section. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

So, by that standard Super Street Fighter II and Super Street Fighter II Turbo should be the same article? Or what about Mortal Kombat (1992 video game) and Mortal Kombat (2011). The game has had several previews since the announcement, and also during E3 2013. And as stated before, it's not even the same developers. Besides, exceptions may apply to any and all rules. Havok (T/c/e) 19:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

The two Mortal Kombat games you linked are two entirely different games that share the same name, and the Street Fighter Turbo has barely any references so that probably should not even be its own article for other reasons. But anyways, at the time being there is not much (again) distinct information, besides the little that is in the section, to make its own article. Maybe after it is released, when official reviews come in, and any other info about the music or gameplay is available (more in depth), then it would warrant an article. Could we possibly agree on that? Wait two more weeks to see what other info is released, and how many different media outlets write reviews, to consider making it its own article? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I won't revert it again. But I do want to hear from more people about this. Havok (T/c/e) 19:38, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I would love for it to be its own article, but by my view of the material we already have, it doesn't seem like it could be its own article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:16, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Agree with Favre1fan, it is not a separate game it updates the artwork but is still the same game, and does not require a separate article to simply repeat the same content. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:24, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe this will depend on the actual reception. There is just enough development information that if the game has a full-blown reception akin to most AAA titles, a stand-alone article could be possible. However, given that this is simply a graphical + sensory polishing and not a gameplay or story change, to strongly encourage the game to be kept here. --MASEM (t) 20:29, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, this is what I roughly came to say; lets wait until the game is released, and then make a call based on the reception it receives, and/or if it receives any "post-mortem" type reviews on the development process of the game. Sergecross73 msg me 20:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't think it really matters either way, which it doesn't. The game has no intentions to reinvent the wheel, so the argument that it's a flashy port is sound (for now). Focus on building the article here until there's too much, and then bounce it out summary-style if necessary. There is plenty to quote. czar · · 21:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

• If it is widely reviewed by the usual reliable sources, split it. But we'll have to wait and see. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 21:24, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
• Definitely split, eventually. It will get a lot of attention (it's a remake of one of the greatest games ever made), and the development is definitely unique, especially considering that the developer is not only new to DuckTales, but is American, so interviews will likely be easier to come by. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 22:05, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
• I will recommend what I always recommend for debates about splitting: don't split until 1) it comes out, and 2) there's enough material to warrant it. In the meantime, you should add (meaningful) content to the section here to support/justify a split. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:36, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Havok, I understand your passion, but please remember that it's always better to have one great article, than one great and one not-so-much. There is always time to split the article later. Wikipedia has no deadline. I suggest first improving the section here first, and then taking the next step.--Soetermans. T / C 11:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think I am doing this right. Sorry. But here is a link to a panel we did at San Diego Comic Con which might help you guys come to a better consensus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XniR04l3iA Cheers! -Austin 11:48, 5 August 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.104.165.172 (talk)

Hi Austin. Thanks for the link. However, we can not use that, while the content appears to be valid, it is not uploaded by an official channel related to Disney, Capcom or WayForward. We can not use it per WP:YOUTUBE. In any event, I had already watched the panel, and didn't gain any further info from it, that was not already given in the "Duckumentaries". - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:29, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. I am not a wikipedia editor so I am unaware of the much of the official rules for links and whatnot. I was hoping it would at least inform any decisions you would make about whether this game is its own thing and needs its own page. -Austin 11:39, 7 August 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.250.76.234 (talk)

Thank you for the thought! The sources are there for the game, it's just a matter of how much actual usable material we are able to add to the section. Much of it is the same, or just simply restated. That's why, I believe, we concluded that we will wait until it is released and reviews and any more notability comes up for it, and make the decision then. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

• In light of the fact that the game is now out, people have gotten their hands on it, and the reception section has begun being filled in, I feel like there's enough added or changed content in the game, coupled with development information, to justify a separate article, as has been the case with titles like Final Fantasy IV (3D remake), Perfect Dark (Xbox Live Arcade), or Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (2013 video game). Heck, I'm pretty sure this article has about as much Remastered content in it as it does content related to the original release. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 18:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I as well would support a split now. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I concur, and suggest that we make a formal vote. Sirion123 (talk) 07:23, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Remastered Split

Okay. Let's try to get some support for or against this. As it has been released, I believe that there has been enough media coverage, to warrant its own page (more so than at the time when previously discussed above). I was working extensively to find any relevant info to add, as well as a range of sources for a neutral take on the game. If split, the only thing I believe would need to be worked on, is expanding the Reception section, to include more of the reviews, as I only found scores/ratings to add to the template.

DuckTales (video game)#DuckTales: Remastered -> DuckTales: Remastered

- Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

• Support - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - There's no SIZE issues here, and since the game's plot and gameplay remain unchanged from the original version, the only new information is development and reception. (speaking of which, there are far too many reviews included in the table - you should only include reviews that are actually used in discussing the game, and generally limiting it to 5-6 reviews + aggregators). Split would create two small articles that would remain better comprehensively in one place. --MASEM (t) 17:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the info on the reviews. Not aware of that, and would not have added as many if known. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:25, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, and to be clear, that's not the reason I'm opposing the split, as you'd have the same issue in either result. --MASEM (t) 02:43, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose - I agree with Masem. It's pretty rare that a remake/remaster/re-release of a game is so notable on its own that it warrants its own article. Usually, such a remake is more than just a remake - it's a reimagining, and/or a lot has been added to the game over the original, and/or the techniques and concepts used in the remake are particularly notable in their own right. (For a hypothetical example, the first game to see a 3D remake might have its own article because it was a new concept at the time, and it got a lot of press coverage for bringing something new to the industry.) I haven't done a ton of reading up on what's new in this remake, but my understanding is that it's mostly a graphical overhaul, but that the gameplay and story are largely unchanged (deliberately so), and thus a split-out article would end up repeating most of the content of this one. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:43, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Changing my vote to Neutral (I know that doesn't help too much), because after going and reading the precedent articles you linked, I can see how this would fit the mold as well. Truth is, DuckTales Remastered has gotten a lot of significant press coverage simply because the original game had a very strong fan following. I'm not yet convinced that the remake is independently notable, but at this point I'm not convinced that it isn't either. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 03:15, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support - Press coverage plus all the new information and content added to the game. That, and I don't consider myself to be a "deletionist", even though that's only tangentially relevant here. dogman15 (talk) 07:57, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support - Sirion123 (talk) 21:09, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support - The amount of news coverage warranted its own article. All the more since it's getting a retail release in North America on November 12th. ♠♠ BanëJ ♠♠ ^(Talk) 16:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support - ALL of the details in the Infobox would be different - the games were developed by completely different companies and individuals, released at different times on different platforms, and received completely differently. It's unlikely that someone searching for "DuckTales: Remastered" is actually seeking information on the original DuckTales. Despite naive and propagandist claims to the contrary, same gameplay != same game. And there is plenty of information and resources to sustain two full pages. Yourself In Person (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - What information can be added that isn't included by now? Just because the remake received media attention it somehow deserves its own article? Is there a guideline I'm not familiar with that says that? Because right now it's nice and tidy just like this. When split a new gameplay and plot section have to be made, which would either be a straight copy from this article, or have template redirecting to here. Yourself, your argument doesn't make sense, just because someone would seek information on the remastered version, then that person would automatically wouldn't want to see information on the original? Since it is a remastered version, we will always have to mention that is a remastered version of NES original. --Soetermans. T / C 18:57, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

As no votes have been made for a month, the result should be valid enough as it stands now, that is 4 support vs. 2 oppose. Any volunteers for the job of getting the new page up and running? I would do it, but I still don't know my way around Wikipedia well enough. Sirion123 (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. I have moved the section to it's own article. ♠♠ BanëJ ♠♠ ^(Talk) 18:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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Bad ending and life-restoring cheat -- also on Game Boy or not?

There's a lot in this article about the bad ending and the life-restoring cheat that must be used to get there. Are these NES-only, or also on the Game Boy version? Article should clarify. Equinox ◑ 16:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)