Talk:Did Six Million Really Die?

Should this booklet be in Category:Antisemitic publications?

Seeking consensus. Shearonink (talk) 15:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Without a doubt it's Holocaust denial, but it shouldn't be classified as anti-semitism. Anti-semitism arises from a hatred of Jews, and it's material does exist. One of the most easily misconstrued ideas is that Holocaust denial is perpetuated by neo-nazis who want a real genocide, or people who believe it's a conspiracy to profit from the Germans and further the expansion of Israel into Palestine. One can even open a revisionist book, watch a documentary, or read an essay/article - they won't be able to find an instance of anti-Jewish slurs. Such material is created in an academic manner. Not all revisionists are even pro-Hitler. Watch "BuchenWald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil" by Denierbud, or "Nazi Shrunken Heads" for a shorter version. That's my take. InternetSpartan (talk) 18:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)InternetSpartan

Thought I'd replied. You're wrong. I've added a source now, and Zundel, who published it, is not simply a guy who thinks not that many Jews died. Doug Weller talk 19:02, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree with @InternetSpartan:. The book is not an antisemitic publication. BudJillett (talk) 05:53, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

And that editor was blocked for his attempts to whitewash holocaust denial publications. If you think holocaust denial isn't anti-Semitic which is what he claimed, or that Anne Frank didn't really die, you won't understand why he was blocked. Doug Weller talk 08:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

The book questions some of the Holocaust numbers, which does not rise to the level of hate or antisemitism. Your POV does not appear to be neutral. I wasn't aware Wikipedia listed reasons for blocking editors. If you claim the above editor was blocked for "whitewashing holocaust denial publications" then you should post the wiki link to that fact. Regardless, whether or not the above editor was blocked is irrelevant to the point at hand. This subheading is to vote on consensus. Wikipedia is not meant to be a discussion forum WP:NOTFORUM BudJillett (talk) 04:35, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Antisemitic? Or not.

The disambiguation line has stated in the past "This article is about the 1974 antisemitic pamphlet...." Today it has been changed twice by IP-editor/s to "This article is about the 1974 pamphlet...." and subsequently reverted by two different editors (including myself). It seems clear to me that a "Holocaust denial" pamphlet is, ipso facto, by its very existence, anti-semitic. Apparently others disagree - let's discuss and come to a consensus. Shearonink (talk) 01:00, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

It's really the same IP editor and if I see it again I'm blocking the range. Anything the National Front publishes about Jews can be assumed to be antisemitic until reliable sources prove otherwise. Any editor trying to imply that a a work on Holocaust denial from the National Front is not antisemitic is not here to build a reality-based encyclopedia. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

• "Antisemitic" gets the point across. "Historical-denialist" or "Holocaust-denialist" work but both are longer. No change is needed at this time. --K.e.coffman (talk) 02:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)