Talk:Da Nang

Han Tu

Are the han tu 峴港? Badagnani 02:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Napoleon III of France renamed the city as Tourane (沱灢). 峴港 (was Nghiễn Cảng[1]) seems to be a former name?? -✉ Hello World! 06:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Tourane is the French corruption of "Cửa Hàn", a port nearby. The name Da Nang is of non-Chinese origin. DHN 16:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

If not of Chinese origin, then from which original language? Badagnani 17:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

According to "Hỏi đáp về Quảng Nam-Đà Nẵng" [Questions and Answers about Quảng Nam-Đà Nẵng] by Bùi Minh Quốc, Đà Nẵng originated from the Cham word Da Nak, meaning "opening of big river". DHN 17:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

That's good info. Can you add this to the article? Badagnani 06:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The name "Nghiễn Cảng/峴港" I've seen only on Chinese maps. I believe this is a Chinese apellation. I've never seen any Vietnamese text referring to that name as an alternate to "Cửa Hàn/Đà Nẵng". Duyet-pho 20:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Somewhere, at some time in the past, I was given to believe that 峴港 was a name originally given by the Japanese. Not sure how you would confirm it.

Bathrobe (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It is plausible that the name was given by the Japanese. Hoi An use to be the major city/ trading town in the area. Mass Japanese people lived in the region...Very probable. Should there be some mention about Hoi An and its link to Da Nang? Moreover, people started settling in Da Nang instead of Hoi An in the early 20th century... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.211.18 (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

U.S. air base

Do we have an article for the U.S. air base that was there during the Vietnam War? Badagnani (talk) 20:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Found it. Badagnani (talk) 20:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Capital of Da Nang

Regarding the article Da Nang, I've recently edited this page by removing the Capital field from it. I'm wondering why it was reverted. Da Nang is a city of Vietnam, and it does not have a capital. Also, the field is blank at the moment, so what purpose does it serve there? Just wondering... Vietknight (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a difference between Da Nang city and Da Nang Province. Da Nang city is the capital of Da Nang Province. Vietknight (talk) 17:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Population

I am no expert of Vietnam except that I have a father who is Cantonese born and raised in Saigon. But I also know of another town in Vietnam called Can Tho. This article's geography section claims that Da Nang is the fourth largest city in Vietnam. Wouldn't Can Tho be bigger? The article blatantly states that they have over a million people. Also, this article is in serious need of references. ★Dasani★ 08:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Haiphong stands second with 1 million people. Da nang only has 700,000. Can Tho province had 1 million before split in half. The city proper has only 300-400,000 people. --79.68.131.63 (talk) 05:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Rail to port?

"The city is a major station of the Unification Train system."

But is Da Nang Port served by rail? Tabletop (talk) 05:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Not directly. Eyeing the distance on Google Maps, the train station seems to be within about 2km of the main port facility. I figure most transportation to and from the port is done by road; Bach Dang road is well-kept and connects both of the main port facilities. There's a lot of construction going on at the seafront too, so who knows, maybe plans for a rail link are in the works. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm planning to take the train up from HCMC to Danang at least once this fall, so I'll be able to comment further on this. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Blockade of boxes on abandoned rail spur, near Danang station

OK, make that this spring, as my plans changed :) However, while in Danang this fall, I took a little walking trip down to the railway station (gathering some photos to help with my research on Rail transport in Vietnam), and explored the area. Interestingly enough, there's what appears to be an abandoned rail spur extending east of the station, towards the river (the part of the line that's actually used ends here). The pic at right shows what this abandoned spur looks like; it ends just about a hundred meters further than pictured, but the curving alleyway it's on continues for several hundred meters more. This suggests to me, although I haven't found clear evidence (i.e. a pre-1940s map with rail tracks indicated) that the railway network in Danang was much more extensive, but the link was abandoned due to damage sustained during wartime. You can see what I'm talking about (w/ Commons pics) on Google Maps: the train may have continued down Trieu Nu Vuong street (which goes south, not towards the Port), and if you look further north, you can see that Dong Da street seems to be aligned in such a way that it could have been a northern extension of the railway—which, if you follow it all the way to the river, ends right in front of the Port. All this to say, in a roundabout way, that the Port may once have been served by rail, but it's not now. I don't expect it'd be a major priority for Danang's People's Committee to revive it though, since most of the transport happens by road anyway, and most of the money that goes towards rail is being spent for rehabilitating damaged infrastructure. What's left for rail expansion is being spent in other places like Vung Tau. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 16:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

To follow up on this, File:US_Army_Map_Da_Nang_1969.jpg shows the railway continuing towards the port. So there once was a railway line for sure, but it's no longer in use. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Sister cities

Someone please check this wrong list. Da Nang in fact does not have such long a list. The [18] reference does not show any relating information.58.48.110.22 (talk) 15:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Here's the actual list of "sister cities and prefectures" hosted at the [18] reference. Do you have any particular comments about any of these? --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 11:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Sister cities and prefectures of DanangCity

The US's cities:

Tacoma, Washington

Jersey City of New Jersey

Riverside City of California

San Francisco City of California

Pittsburgh City of Pensylvania

Oakland City of California

Australia's cities:

Newcastle City of New South Wales

Queensland state

Japan's cities and prefectures:

Kawasaki City

Iwaki City

Shizuoka City

Kagoshima Prefecture

Okinawa Prefecture

China's provinces and cities:

ShangdongProvince

JiangsuProvince

QuingdaoCity

I have removed Queensland, Australia, as I do not understand how a state can be a sister city. I have also looked on the Internet and can find no reference to this claim.--Soulparadox (talk) 12:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Most of the "sister cities" on this page are listed on the official government website, which has changed its structure recently. The old sister cities page (or "Sister cities and prefectures of DanangCity"), dated 2007, is here. Queensland isn't the only state- or province-level entity listed there. Perhaps since Da Nang now operates as a province-level city they felt they needed to make some connections with provinces and prefectures in other countries too. To make it even more confusing, there is another, different list of cities and province-level entities here, under the "Da Nang’s International Cooperation" section of the website. This one still contains Queensland, and even has more information: "Da Nang and Queensland established cooperative relations in planning, tourism and investment in 2003. Cooperation in education and tourism is considered the key point for promoting the relationship. The University of Da Nang has cooperated fruitfully with the University of Queensland since 2001." Perhaps the solution would be to update the list and change the heading from "Sister cities" to "International Cooperation"? --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

May I also quietly note how much I loathe the city website. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I greatly appreciate the comprehensive response and the heads-up on my Talk page—this is how all copyeditors should communicate :-) --Soulparadox (talk) 03:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem :) The issue bore some explaining anyway. When I have some time, I'll go ahead and update this section as I mentioned above. "International cooperation" seems to make more sense as a title anyway, given that we're not just dealing with cities. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 16:49, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Page Layout Problem

Some people may have missed this, but I'm not sure if its only appearing on my computer only or if its universal. If you view the Da Nang page live, apparently the GPS coordinates are floating ontop of the wikipedia banner at the top. Anyone know how to fix this? Vietknight (Vietknight) 03:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by this, as I can't see the same thing in my browser. Which browser version/OS version are you using? I've seen similar problems popping up when viewing other pages in Safari, for example, when the same page would look fine in FF/IE. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 15:46, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm using Windows 7 with the browser Mozilla FireFox 4.0.1. Weird how you don't have that problem with FF. Oh nevermind, I found the problem it has something to do with the occasional message that pops up on the top of wikipedia...e.g. the box with this text in it shows up the coordinates link is overlaying on top of it. "The final round of the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year competition has begun. Click here to learn more about the contest and vote for your favorite image." Vietknight (talk) 03:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Da Nang is the center of the economic, education, science and technology of Highland and Central area. It lacated on the central - North Coastal region, Vietnam. Quote Da nang Vietnam: http://vietnamtripadvisor.net/da-nang-vietnam-da-nang-city-2-6.html 222.254.160.106 (talk) 14:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

2023 update: The layout of images on this page, especially the ones towards the top of the page, look pretty bad using the Vector 2022 skin. If anyone has any ideas on how to improve this situation, please share and/or be bold. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 05:56, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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Move to Da Nang

I believe the page should be moved because Da Nang is more common than Danang, as evidenced by the fact that every single instance of the city's name appearing throughout the article other than the intro, as well as in related articles, is two words and not one. Is there a reason it should still say it as one word?

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Requested move 2 July 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Da Nang. WP:DIACRITICS gains precedence over uniformity.(non-admin closure) Winged Blades ^Godric 07:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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Danang → Da Nang – per WP:UCN and query above. The article was stable at Da Nang for over 10 years until this undiscussed move last year. Another option is a move to Đà Nẵng (with diacritics) as with all but a handful of cities in Vietnam. —  AjaxSmack  21:47, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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• Support a move to Da Nang as nom but prefer a move to Đà Nẵng consistent with the article titles of 90+% of Vietnam city articles which use diacritics. —  AjaxSmack  21:51, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

• Support. Of the first four references recommended by our relevant guideline, three use "Da Nang." See Encyclopædia Britannica, Columbia Encyclopedia, and Oxford Atlas of the World. The exception is The Times Comprehensive Atlas of the World, which gives "Đa Năng" -- that's some Vietnamese diacritics, but not others. Both Merriam-Webster, the authority on American spelling, and Oxford Dictionaries, the authority on British spelling, use "Da Nang." Great scott (talk) 01:27, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Are you sure those sources are enabled for full Vietnamese fonts as en.wp is? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

• Support a move to Da Nang, understanding nom's reasoning, though seems a bit Vietlish when all the other cities are fully spelled. Strongly support nom's preferred move to Đà Nẵng consistent with the article titles of 90+% of Vietnam city articles which use diacritics. The current title looks a bit like a Vietnam War era book, and is a bit odd. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
• Support move to Đà Nẵng for consistency.  ONR  (talk)  12:33, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Consistent with what? Da Nang is a major Vietnamese city. Here is how we spell the other major Vietnamese cities: Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi, and Haiphong. Great scott (talk) 14:38, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

• Support nom's preferred move to Đà Nẵng consistent with the article titles of 90+% of Vietnam city articles which use diacritics. However, Da Nang is still infinetly better than Danang and I would support that if Đà Nẵng will not be used. The move from Da Nang to Danang was undiscussed and unilaterally made by one editor and was uncatched. By that alone there should be impetus to at least reset the status quo. --DTM9025 (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

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 Uninvolved question: Where should it be moved to? To Da Nang or to Đà Nẵng?

• "when deciding between versions of a word which differ in the use or non-use of modified letters, follow the general usage in reliable sources that are written in the English language (including other encyclopedias and reference works)." So says WP:DIACRITICS. If I search for "Đà Nẵng" on gbooks, every single result is Vietnamese language material.[2] In contrast, "Da Nang" returns popular works from mainstream English-language publishers: Naked in Da Nang: A Forward Air Controller in Vietnam (2004) by Mike Jackson and Tara Dixon-Engel, Da Nang Diary: A Forward Air Controller's Gunsight View of Combat in Vietnam (2002) by Thomas Yarborough, and The Vietnam War: From Da Nang to Saigon (2011) by Deborah Kent. Great scott (talk) 00:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Article expansion & improvement

There are a few parts of this article that need to be expanded and otherwise improved. The politics section is virtually empty and needs attention from someone who can give a detailed and neutral account of the city's administration. There is plenty more to say about the city's ever-growing economy, and the sections on education and infrastructure are also weak. Finally, the section on history needs to be greatly expanded, including not only the French Indochina era but also everything before—there must be lots more to say about the Champa and Đại Việt eras, too. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:41, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Articles to all colleges

There should be articles to all colleges (I will try to start).

Colleges

--Travellingoctober (talk) 13:36, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

That would be awesome! Let us know if you need any help finding sources. dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 20:12, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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