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This article has been assessed as a stub. It needs expansion on the forms of coming into force in various jurisdictions. Capitalistroadster 23:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Effective dateEdit

1997 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.254.225.70 (talk) 13:25, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Most Acts do not 'come into force' just by being passed by the legislature or receiving executive approval. They almost always include a date from which the new law will apply (this could be several years ahead), and this is the date on which an Act can be said to come into force. Emeraude 16:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The date from which the new law will apply is called 'entry into operation'(see Biocidal Product Regulation). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.191.88.239 (talk) 12:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Content qualityEdit

This article is just dreadful! Unfortunately, among other problems, it mangles together treatment of both legislation and treaties, so it perhaps needs co-operation between people familiar with both to sort it out.
Regarding legislation, it seems to me that there are three separate concepts that have been confused here:

  1. enactment, by which a draft law "hits the statute book";
  2. promulgation, by which the existence of a law is formally notified to the public; and
  3. the coming into force of a law's provisions, i.e. the date(s) on which those provisions take actual practical effect.

For example, a law might be "approved" or "signed into law" on 1 June 2011, but not be enforceable until its promulgation (by publication in an official gazette on 2 June), and not actually change anything "on the ground" until 1 January 2012.
There is already an article on promulgation, but there don't seem to be any for the other two (although there are articles on "Royal Assent" and "veto"). Perhaps all the legislative material should be moved into "legislation", and the treaty material moved into "treaty" (which presently seems to lack anything on the formalities of concluding international agreements).
Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 03:16, 21 June 2011 (UTC).

I'm wondering, would the proper legal term for 'the coming into force of a law's provisions, i.e. the date(s) on which those provisions take actual practical effect' be "Date of Effectiveness"? Drdpw (talk) 16:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

In England, the correct term is "commencement" or "coming into force". James500 (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks James500; I thought that this might be a case of British vs. American terminology. The 2 terms are synonymous then. In that case, perhaps the article Effective date should be redirected to this article and the term included along side "commencement". I do agree with Andrew Gwilliam's assessment above concerning this article, and hope that it gets the attention it needs. This all got started for me when I wanted to add "effective" as an option along side "commencement" on the Legislation infobox template, but was told no, because effective date isn't a proper legal term (even though it is here in the US, whereas commencement is not).
Discussion link – Template talk:Infobox legislation.
I just noticed that I did not sign this post yesterday; sorry. Drdpw (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)