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Chelsea Manning has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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May 11, 2012Good article nomineeListed
August 23, 2013Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article
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References
  1. ^ Rainey Reitman, "Feminist, trans advocates should support Bradley Manning", Bradley Manning Support Network Steering Committee, Washington Blade, February 23, 2012

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Sex reassignment surgery is relevant to articleEdit

On October 20, 2018, User:Rab V reverted my addition of Chelsea Manning's announcement that she had, after years of fighting for it, finally undergone surgery. In his edit summary, Rab V made two points. First, it was "not directly stated in tweet what the surgery is." Any fair reading of Chelsea Manning would confirm that Manning has fought for only one type of surgery: Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS). Second, Rab V contends that "without secondary source it is difficult to establish how relevant a surgery would be to rest of article." Again, one need merely read this BLP, which mentions SRS four times, to establish that editorial consensus has long recognized the relevance of said surgery to Chelsea Manning. I request renewed discussion to affirm that this latest development is, obviously, about SRS and that it is, just as obviously, relevant to the BLP. KalHolmann (talk) 20:52, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Still if it's not immediately obvious the exact nature of the surgery we shouldn't be making assumptions or we could run into OR issues. The surgery may be related to being trans and not be sexual reassignment surgery, for example orchiectomy or breast augmentation. My tendency is to be cautious around BLP issues for people's medical history as well. If it is very notable, it will probably show up in secondary sources that could also clarify the exact surgery since Manning is still often in the news. Might as well wait til then. PS I am not a man and we probably shouldn't gender wikipedia editors as if they are :) Rab V (talk) 21:01, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
The quote can be run after being led into by a reference to this story from earlier this month that she was to receive "gender transition surgery". Under MOS:LWQ, we can and should skip the wikilink in the quote itself. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:19, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
@NatGertler: The Reuters story to which you link is more than two years old (Sep 14, 2016). As such, it is unrelated to this latest development and ought not to be added. KalHolmann (talk) 21:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Whoops, sorry, the Google News results were listing that as an October 8, 2018 story for some reason. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
@NatGertler: I also reject your reading of MOS:LWQ, which states: "…when linking within quotations, link only to targets that correspond to the meaning clearly intended by the quote's author." I submit that Manning's intended meaning is clear: she's alluding to sex reassignment surgery. KalHolmann (talk) 21:29, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
I'm not certain which surgery she is referring to exactlty so we are still at an impasse. It seems related to her status as trans but that still could imply several different possible surgeries. My understanding with regards to notability of surgery within the article, the issue that made it notable and widely discussed in the news was the legal fight the DoD had with her. That fight ended when she left their custody so isn't an issue now. My preference would still be for a reliable secondary source to clear up what surgery she had and help us make sure we aren't wading into BLP issues around someone's medical history. Rab V (talk) 00:20, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
@Rab v: See These. She received SRS. --Sharouser (talk) 16:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2018Edit

Please remove "born Bradley Edward Manning." It directly goes against the guidelines to include a trans person's birth name, and is highly disrespectful. Thank you. Transoulrebel (talk) 19:06, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: From MOS:MULTIPLENAMES: "In the case of transgender and non-binary people, birth names should be included in the lead sentence only when the person was notable under that name." This article is actually specifically mentioned as an example within that guideline. She was certainly notable under her birth name, so the article is written correctly under current guidelines. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

No mention of post prison suicide attempts?Edit

Why are there no mentions of her suicide attempts after being released from prison? These have all been verified by reputable sources, and discussed by them as well. It seems highly pertinent considering that Manning was a senatorial candidate. A senate candidate actively attempting suicide seems noteworthy for Wikipedia's standards. I lived in Maryland when this event originally happened, and believe me I would have preferred to have known this. It's bizarre why it was never listed in the first place. [1] 2601:982:4200:A6C:B09F:9AE8:DADF:71BE (talk) 20:13, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

This was discussed extensively in the now-archived discussion at Talk:Chelsea_Manning/Archive_16#Alleged_suicide_attempt. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Who is "Nick" so many times cited in the article?Edit

I was not able to find any mentioning or source here.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fraktik (talkcontribs) 09:20, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Those are references to this book, which you will find listed in the references section:
  • Nicks, Denver. Private: Bradley Manning, WikiLeaks, and the Biggest Exposure of Official Secrets in American History. Chicago Review Press, 2012. ISBN 978-1610390613
--Nat Gertler (talk) 12:44, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

reading the article, 'Nicks' is referenced on so many occasions I think a minor rewrite is required to state who that is within the article. If you search for 'Nicks', you only get the answer you want at approx number 59/64 references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:A314:4A01:3908:2F83:4638:C546 (talk) 00:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Chelsea Manning jailed for refusing to testifyEdit

I don't understand the subject well but this seems like a notable event

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 17:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


Also notable is the name of the Federal Court Judge who ordered the jail: District Court Judge Claude Hilton. Hilton was a Reagan nominee; in 2000 he was appointed by another Reagan nominee (Chief Justice Rehnquist) to serve on the secret, pro-govt FISC. These additional details may not be relevant to the main article, but surely the Judge's name is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.213.223.46 (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2019Edit

In 2018 Manning challenged incumbent Senator Ben Cardin for the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate election in her home state of Maryland.[1] On June 26, 2018, Manning finished second among eight candidates. Manning received 5.7% of the votes; Cardin won renomination with 80.5% of the votes cast.[2]

Manning has returned to prison and I would like this to be included in the article

In 2018 Manning challenged incumbent Senator Ben Cardin for the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate election in her home state of Maryland.[1] On June 26, 2018, Manning finished second among eight candidates. Manning received 5.7% of the votes; Cardin won renomination with 80.5% of the votes cast.[2]

On March 8, 2019, Manning was jailed again after refusing to testify before a grand jury about Wikileaks.[3] 2601:447:4101:5780:C1F1:F850:EBD1:D353 (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

  Not done for now This has been included in the body of the article, but is not fit for the lead at the moment per MOS:LEAD. Although there is a tempation to include all recent news in the lead, generally such information is not notable enough long term to justify inclusion in the lead, and is instead included in the body. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Should the coverage prove to be notable and enduring, then we could justify its inclusion into the lead. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 20:37, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Her reimprisonment clearly represents a fundamental change in her status and warrants immediate inclusion in the Lede in my view. I don't see how WP:NOTNEWS is applicable here. But if you don't agree, no worries I guess, we can wait for others to chime in. FeydHuxtable (talk) 21:52, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
I've looked it up a bit and done some research, and on second thought it does warrant inclusion. I like how you implemented it into the lead FeydHuxtable. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 22:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
  1. ^ a b Jouvenal, Justin (January 13, 2018). "Chelsea Manning files to run for U.S. Senate in Maryland". The Washington Post.
  2. ^ a b "2018 Primary Election Results". The Baltimore Sun. June 26, 2018. Retrieved June 26, 2018.
  3. ^ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chelsea-manning-jailed-for-refusing-to-testify-on-wikileaks-today-2019-03-08/
  4. Return to "Chelsea Manning" page.