Talk:Cedar Rapids, Iowa

Radio

Who updated the radio heading to say KKSY-FM 96.5? That's blatantly wrong. 96.5 is WMT, and Clear Channel is illegally branding it as KKSY although they still do identify as WMT-FM 96.5 at the top of the hour. This has been reported to the FCC (by me and several others) and they have promised that action/fines will be taken. Someone should revert those changes back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.199.168 (talk) 19:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Weather

Doesnt somebody want to put in the weather of this place in. I am not from this place, so am not a good person to write about this, and the page will be very much useful if somebody can fill in with the weather details too. For somebody who is travelling to that place.Balaji Varma 16:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Five Smells?

This is a common nickname and deserves mention in the article. Source —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cadentsoul (talk • contribs) 08:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Err... that article cites wikipedia, so here´s another source--Cadentsoul (talk) 08:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

...which is also apparently a site that cites wikipedia. Can´t find a good reference for this but just googling "Cedar Rapids City of Five Smells" will confirm that it is a common nickname.--Cadentsoul (talk) 01:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the city of five smells nickname. It was previously added back as a "Revert Vandalism" (which, by the way, make a lot of other extraneous changes including adding old typos back) and before that was removed as a an unsourced derogatory nickname. I have heard the nickname used from time-to-time, although I don't personally feel it's worth putting in the article. If you do add it back, PLEASE, find a reference. This would be a silly thing to result in an edit war. HDow (talk) 22:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

There are several consensus remarks throughout the entire article, one being under Neighborhoods: '... are commonly known as the "ghetto" of Cedar Rapids'. Leave the nickname in the article. If you ever visit CR, you should be prepared to know why it smells the way it does. Hawkervictorone (talk) 18:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I went to Coe College in the early 70s. At the time, Wilson and Company operated a meat packing plant south of town. Believe me, on a hot summer day with humid air coming in from the south, the nickname "Cedar Rancid" was on alot of tongues. It was the mark of the greenhorn, the freshman, to blame the Quaker Oats plant for the stink. That smelled like an oatmeal cookie to me and I liked it. "The city of five smells" must have gained currency after I left town. I never heard it but with the nickname, "city of five seasons" , just coming in (and sounding rather pretentious), it's not suprising that the "five smells" moniker also showed up. Wilson's closed the plant in 1990 so that smell is gone. The young people don't know what us old folks remember. PHEW (holds nose)!--Phyllis1753 (talk) 16:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Folks, I've removed this verbiage from the article:

Local rhetoric jokingly refers to the "City of Five Smells," due to the sometimes pervasive odor from the city's industrial businesses, which include Cargill, Penford Products and Quaker Oats.

I've removed it because it's simply irrelevant to an encyclopedic article for a city. Many cities have odors, and while some cities have more odors than others, or more intense odors, I cannot imagine why anyone would have an emotional investment in calling attention to this for Cedar Rapids in particular. Parts of Macon, Georgia have odors, parts of the enchanting city of Amsterdam have odors -- so what? That some residents of Cedar Rapids may jokingly refer to the "smells" is neither here nor there with respect to an entry in Wikipedia. Jeff Mincey (talk) 04:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Quite right. It has no place within the article. The talk page is the place for it.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 20:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

You could cite this article: http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Raygun-capitalizes-on-crunchberries-and-more-in-the-city-of-five-smells-375088081.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.251.94.244 (talk) 22:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Ron Livingston? / Marion a suburb?

Isn't Ron Livingston from Marion? Granted, that Cedar Rapids metro area and he was born in a hospital in Cedar Rapids and he got his start in professional theater at Theater Cedar Rapids, but he lived in Marion and went to Marion high school. How picky is normal for this sort of thing? Ace of Sevens 01:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I would include it. Marion is esentially a suburb of Cedar Rapids, and people from the suberbs of Chicago are certainly associated directly with the main city. And the tie to TCR makes it even more legitimate. Gaijin42 22:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I think people from Marion would dispute that they're a suburb of Cedar Rapids. In fact, they fight pretty strongly to stay seperate... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.203.196 (talk • contribs)

People from marion my have a desire to remain seperate, but that has nothing to do with reality. Marion and Hiawatha are both very clearly suburbs. From wikipedia's suburb definition : In the United States and United Kingdom ( TALK) , the word "suburb" usually refers to a separate municipality, borough or unincorporated area outside a central town or city. That clearly matches Marion, as a seperate municipality outside a central town. You can drive straight to Marion on 151, without ever leaving a town, and everywhere I know, that is a suburb. Gaijin42 20:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

First page Google search: http://www.ots.treas.gov/crasql/docs/CRAE_08541_20030505_62.RTF -"...the other in Marion, Iowa,

a suburb northeast of Cedar Rapids...". On the other hand, I don't see a compelling reason to include this particular individual on Cedar Rapids' page instead of at Marion, Iowa. Our Ron Livingston article doesn't mention his ties to Marion, what's your source on that? -- nae'blis _(talk) 06:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

My source is his IMDB bio. Ace of Sevens 02:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Marion is not a suburb of Cedar Rapids. It was founded before CR and is the original county seat of Linn County. The two cities have simply expanded towards each other over the years. BrainyIowan 23:51, 11 November 2006

I do not know if your history is right or not. I will assume it is. The order of founding, or history of the towns is irrelevant. As the definition above clearly states "separate municipality" so yes, they are separate cities. outside a central city. Pretty much describes Marion. According to your definition, all of the well known Chicago burbs aren't suburbs either, because they were just cities that grew together. I understand Marion's feelings of pride, and they are justified. But pride and feelings have nothing to do with an encyclopedia. Gaijin42 01:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, the article says "People from CR and surrounding area" and marion clearly qualifies under that umbrella. Gaijin42 01:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

In the wiki suburb article it also states that suburb usually refers to a "bedroom community." Marion is definitely not a bedroom community. I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you though. Ron was born in a Cedar Rapids hospital so that does make it his birthplace, which is what really counts. :) BrainyIowan 23:51, 12 November 2006

Marion falls within the suburb definition given by merriam webster [1]. Marion is 22% the population of cedar rapids according to the 2000 census. Living in CR I can say that Realtors refer to Marion as a suburb as well. Williameis 17:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

If you look back at the history of Marion, it at one time was bigger than Cedar Rapids. Also, if you live in Eastern Iowa, and watch KCRG, you would know that [I'm pretty sure] they qualify Marion as a town , also its City of Marion.... And Marion also did have the county seat for a while. I believe Marion is a town, not a suburb of Cedar Rapids. Plus, our roads get cleaned WAY faster than Cedar Rapids during the winter when we have a snow storm... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.204.59 (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I should fan this fire more since its been a yearly discussion but in my visits to Cedar Rapids and Marion and my significant other who grew up in Marion, there's is certainly ambiguity but there is no doubt that Marion's modern success is a result of the commercial, agriculture, and service industries developed in Cedar Rapids' skyscraper boom. The income of Marionites are tied to Cedar Rapids now. Though historically the towns have diverged, in the past half century, Cedar Rapids has been chosen and has been developed into the "major city" of the area. The development in Marion also reflects a very suburban nature now (malls) and much of the housing now is post-Depression and post-war with a thin collection of the original 20th century buildings. There is little self-sufficient industry in Marion as well. And the Interstate is sited to emphasize Cedar Rapids with exits that lead directly to corporate headquarters. Lastly, many points listed above are correct, Marion and Hiawatha have been "absorbed" by the Cedar Rapids MSA. As a Twin Citian looking in, we recognize these urban/suburban relationships immediately. And to clarify a fact, a suburb is often an incorporated city in itself with independent government. The term burrough, neighborhood, or district more accurately reflects a sub-section of a city outside the downtown but still inside its borders (ie Czech Village). .:DavuMaya:. 03:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, this comes down to definitions. Dictionary citations are not helpful because they are not technical enough for this context. I would not alter the article on this score, but as I see it, while today Marion is certainly part of the Cedar Rapids metropolitan area, in the lexicon of urban planning, it does not qualify as a suburb. A suburb is a municipality or township whose existence is an economic outgrowth of a pre-existing larger urban core. A suburb must have something of a symbiotic relationship with its urban core. This does not characterize Marion which was incorporated before Cedar Rapids ever existed and which maintains its own self-sustaining infrastructure and institutions. In fact, some historic maps list Marion and make no mention of Cedar Rapids. I say this as a fellow resident of the Twin Cities and one with great familiarity with the cities of Cedar Rapids and Marion. Jeff Mincey (talk) 04:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

In reviewing Google searches, the answer is not clear either. Many people will say Marion a suburb of CR, but its not really one. So culturally there is ambiguity. In technical fields, as an urban planner, I would agree that Marion did not form as a suburb and is not an outgrowth. But I would argue that the relationship does exist, though not as strong, will grow to be centered on CR over time. Marion I feel is like a Jordan, Minnesota or a Hastings, Minnesota, where physically very separate, over time has become part of a greater system. Many consider them suburbs now (and rightfully so) but do acknowledge their independent histories and foundings. For example how can Jordan be a suburb when it is separated by a township? A more appropriate example would be Minneapolis and St. Anthony, where SA certainly rivaled the other city and had industry first, but the massive growth of the two cities made it clear they needed to unify. In Iowa, these kind of relationships are playing out in a slower time because growth is so low. Marion is in that ambiguous zone, it has survived absorption into modern times, as such we would not consider it a suburb. But I think it is appropriate to acknowledge this kind of "suburban" relationship when you think of the development occurring in Marion and where jobs are locating in the MSA itself. To be safe for now let us consider "the nearby city of Marion" instead of "suburb." Also in regards to self-sustaining infrastructure, I'm not clear as to how this distinguishes a suburb from a city, Burnsville where I am from has 60,000 people and is physically separated by a river from Minneapolis. .:davumaya:. 08:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

As someone who's lived in Cedar Rapids about a year, I would say Marion is somewhere between an independent suburb (it seems to have its own industrial and cultural base, but economically it is linked to Cedar Rapids) and something of a twin city. It's more clear-cut with larger areas (you have to go pretty far out to find an independent suburb of Washington, DC, for example), but with a small city like Cedar Rapids, a suburb of 25,000 is a substantial size compared to the main city being only 125,000. With Charlotte (pop. 650k), the largest suburbs were Concord (50k) and Gastonia (65k), each of which had its own industrial and cultural base, to the point that the official name for the MSA is "Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord". And Gastonia's population is only 1/10th Charlotte's; Marion's is 1/5's Cedar Rapids'. I don't know too much yet about Marion, but I would suspect it is not a simple suburb/bedroom community. Hiawatha, I would say, is definitely a suburb; it has a small size and its economy seems linked to Cedar Rapids', through its retail centers or being a bedroom community. The question is, is Marion's economy as tied to Cedar Rapids'? However, I see no point in bringing up the "Marion was founded first!" deal - many of Washington's suburbs were founded long before DC, yet are 100% suburbs of the capital now. Whoever was founded first means nothing in determining suburbanhood today. Personally, I think it's kind of a bad fight to get in to; just call Marion a neighboring town and be done with it. --Golbez (talk) 09:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

As I say, this comes down to definitions. The economy of Marion is unquestionably linked to that of Cedar Rapids -- this is why it (Marion) is considered part of the Cedar Rapids metropolitan area. The only question is whether for a city to be part of a metro area ipso facto makes it a suburb or whether instead other factors come into play. St Paul is part of the Twin Cities metropolitan area, but that doesn't make it a suburb of Minneapolis. So this is about the technical definition of suburb, and I will acknowledge this lies outside my expertise. Jeff Mincey (talk) 02:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

It's good at least we had this discussion even if a bit long because I've noticed in the history log there has been back and forth in the past regarding this question. You guys have brought up points I have not yet considered or addressed. I had not even thought of twin cities. I googled "Cedar Rapids-Marion" and some things are depicted in this manner, school teams, regional teams, etc. Waterloo-Cedar Falls has this relationship. Perhaps in the next decade Marion might grow large enough that the Census bureau might consider them a dual MSA. To address your note Jeff, how we determine a suburb is by determining what the central city is, following Metropolitan area guidelines, the city or cities with most influence -- here Cedar Rapids being the county seat and economic power. It also has the most land mass (physical) and people. Technically I would designate it a suburb. Culturally though it is not one. But there is no need to directly refer to Marion in this article, as in the Minneapolis article makes no mention of over 20 cities which are considered suburbs of Minneapolis. And to refer back, by this method, Saint Paul was able to attain its status because it is the state capital and seat of government. It also retains 2/3 of Minneapolis' population size. Thus it was given a dual MSA. .:davumaya:. 03:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Per Capita GNP

The article lists Cedar Rapids as having a GNP well below what quoted as the Iowa average and roughly half the United States average. This doesn't seem right. Ace of Sevens 01:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Notable Natives

Michael Emmerson actor is also from Cedar Rapids as stated on his Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.25.240.121 (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I noticed it lists Michael Boddicker, musician. Is this correct? I know Mike Boddicker the former MLB pitcher was born in Cedar Rapids, but I can't seem to find any info that Boddicker the musician was or was not from C.R. --Ironsij0287 20:35, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Confusion! There is a Michael Boddicker who is a musician , a 1975 Coe College graduate and is from C.R. There was a family business, "Boddicker Music", not far from the campus. There is Mike Boddicker, the baseball player. I know that Michael is a Coe grad because I'm one, too (1977). I have an official Alumni Directory and there he is (and listed incorrectly as Michael J., no less; whereas IMDb lists him correctly as Michael L). They are two different people, however. Phyllis1753 17:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I have found that "Mike" is from Norway, Iowa, not Cedar Rapids. Norway is about 20 miles (32 km) southwest of C. R. and in Benton County. [2] Phyllis1753 18:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

What about one of the most famous Cedar Rapids residents?! Rose DeWitt Bukater, aka Rose from the film Titanic (1997 film). According to the dialogue between Brock Lovett and Lewis Bodine in the beginning of the film:

(Bodine) "Rose DeWitt Bukater died on the Titanic when she was seventeen, right?"

(Lovett) "That's Right"

(Bodine) "If she had lived, she'd be over a hundred by now."

(Lovett) "A hundred and one next month!"

(Bodine) "Okay, so she's a very old goddamn liar! Look, I've done the background on this woman all the way back to the 20s, when she was working as an actress. An actress! There's your first clue, Sherlock! Her name was Rose Dawson back then. Then she marries this guy named Calvert, they move to Cedar Rapids and she punches out a couple of kids. Now Calvert's dead, and from what I hear Cedar Rapids is dead!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.125.32 (talk) 01:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

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"one of only two mainland cities to have their governmental offices on an island"

More. What about Montreal? Has someone really checked all cities in the world? --Chl (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought about this too, but doesn't all Montreal politics get decided in Laval, Quebec.-Ace Telephone (talk) 03:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The Bavarian city of Bamberg's Rathaus (City Hall) is on an island. At any rate, the word "unique" in this article is inaccurate unless qualified. "Unusual", yes: "unique", no. Loganberry (Talk) 00:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

lolcat I took "uniquely" out. .:DavuMaya:. 10:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

After the Floods of '08, the municipal offices are no longer on May's Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.251.94.244 (talk) 22:51, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

The Flood

There has been a bare mention of the great flood that involves CR, where all the governmental buildings on Mays Island (city hall, county court house, county jail, and United States court house) are all flooded up to the first floor level. The Quaker Oats factory is flooded out too (see June 2008 Midwest floods) --Ace Telephone (talk) 03:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC) updated, de-typoed --Ace Telephone (talk) 03:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I've added a link to the article about the Midwest floods. That will probably have to do until things get back to relative "normality" and someone can add a more complete section to the CR article.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 14:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Depending how severe the flood affects the city in a long-term period (which it probably will), we should err on caution and not blow it up. Accordingly, the City has 100 and 500 year flood zones since it's built so low to the river, check its website. So its not like this is not expected to happen. .:DavuMaya:. 20:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Except for the fact that this flood broke past even the 500-year zone. IIRC, flood stage is 12', record was 19.7' set in 1993, 500-year zone was 24.5', and the river crested today at around 31.8'. This is epic by any measure, even for a riverine or coastal city. --Golbez (talk) 00:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Which is generally what I had in mind. The flooding is mentioned and a link to a more comprehensive article about the entire Midwest flood picture. The CR Gazette is doing a good job on-line keeping up with daily matters. Anyway, at some point later on, a section can be added to the article about the more lasting effects of the flood if need be.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 00:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, well I'll upload some of my photos of CR in 2007 so we can see what is now underwater :) .:DavuMaya:. 05:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Five in one bridge

I repeatedly have heard the I-380/A Ave bridge in downtown referred to as the "5-in-1 dam" or "5-in-1 bridge". Does anyone know why? The best I can come up with is that it contains five spans (Two for I-380, two for A Ave, and the dam below), or maybe there are 5 locks on the dam? I have no clue. --Golbez (talk) 03:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe its because it has five "features" in one, such as a dam, interstate, etc. I'm not sure of whats all included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.183.41 (talk) 23:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Reviving a dying discussion, its E avenue, F avenue, hydropower (though now demolished), NB I-380, SB I-380. If I remember correctly, that is. LightRobb (talk) 05:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

No section on the June 2008 flood

There is not a section on the recent floods. I live here and I can personally tell you that the flood as severely affected the city. Many flooded out homes are still empty, businesses not open, and our major theaters are not open. Rebuilding could possibly run into the billions. At this time, it is the single most important event defining the city. I don't have enough expertise to write a good article; all I know is what I read in the local paper. Someone with a lot of knowledge in this area should write a section. Mathgod333 (talk) 00:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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Muslim heritage

Can someone please explain to me why this has its own section as though it is a stand out feature of Cedar Rapids. Is it because our society feels some kind of guilt due to the current conflicts in the Middle East? Cultural sympathy? I've lived in Cedar Rapids for six years and although I've met a few muslims, I don't feel this is something that is worthy of its own section while excluding other religious or cultural influences. Until I read this article, I never knew about this. Quite simply, its not significant enough to be included here because the impact to the city and the knowledge of which, is minimal. Nuki255 (talk) 18:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

What's there is not excessive (two paragraphs), and stands out enough from its surrounding section to perhaps warrant a subhead. Cedar Rapids itself may not be a huge Muslim destination, but it does certainly have a Muslim heritage, by virtue of having one of the oldest extant mosque and Muslim cemetery in the country. It's certainly a larger presence and heritage than people would expect in the rural upper Midwest, and most likely more than anywhere else in Iowa. It's definitely important enough to be included, though I'm not sure if Demographics is the proper place; probably history. And finally: If you didn't know a fact before reading it in an encyclopedia, that probably doesn't mean the encyclopedia is at fault. :) --Golbez (talk) 18:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Great counterpoint Golbez. I certainly am not intending to take on a disparaging tone in my questioning of this. My point was, even after living several years in CR, I never felt the Muslim thing was any more or less than what I would expect in a city of its size. If I may, I've spent several years in Afghanistan working as an aide worker (I am currently writing this from Kabul), so I'd say I have more than a normal sense of cultural sensitivity to such a topic, and yet I still don't feel it is worth having its own subheading. I never "knew" about this yet I've lived there years and even have a deeper connection to muslim culture than your average person. One would assume for it to have its own section, it would be something that is a bit more prevalent on community impact, such that an average person would know it more readily. (ie why did I have to learn this here?) I believe it should be merged in with demographics or history. It is of cultural significance, but not at the exclusion of others. Nuki255 (talk) 03:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Nuki255

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notable people

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The statement:

As a growing job center, Cedar Rapids pulls commuters from nearby Marion and Hiawatha. Other towns that have become bedroom communities include Ely, Swisher, Shueyville, Palo, Atkins, Fairfax, Walford, Robins and Bertram.

needs a reference -- is it a growing job center? Someone should add a reference. Are those communities really bedroom communities -- please improve. 2600:6C40:1800:1F39:8D2B:D9C6:8082:A127 (talk) 22:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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Catholic Schools

The number of Catholic Schools that was listed is incorrect. It said six elementary, two middle and one high school. That was true in 2008, but it is no longer true. As of now, June 12, 2020, there are 4 Catholic elementary schools, two Catholic middle schools, one Catholic PK-8 school, and one Catholic High School. How can I add the link with the correct information to the reflist and delete #s 81 and 82? The link that #81 and #82 lead to is one with outdated information. Schickdavid3 (talk) 00:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Government - City Manager History

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Cedar Rapids City Managers since 2006

City Manager	In office
Jeff Pomeranz	2010–
Jim Prosser	2006–2010

• Reason for the change: The City Manager is an important leadership position within the Cedar Rapids government structure similar in nature to the relevancy of sharing the list of Mayors throughout history or a list of past CEOs on a for-profit entity's page.
• References supporting change: https://www.cedar-rapids.org/local_government/departments_a_-_f/city_manager_s_office/city_manager.php, https://www.thegazette.com/news/how-much-debt-should-a-city-risk

65.156.255.208 (talk) 16:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done PK650 (talk) 05:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

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