Talk:British Rail Class 20

The Data Info Table

Can someone please add information to the info table on the right if possible? I added it to help the page (and added the gallery) but I'm not generally a train geek (I'm into engines, so came across the Class 20 article that way) so I don't have the data to hand... Violentbob 13:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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British rail liveries

The article states class 20 number 20141 was the last mainline loco in British rail Brunswick green livery, however this conflicts with the article on BR class 40 which states that number D306/40106 - Atlantic Conveyor, was the last mainline loco in this livery in 1979. (see class 40 article & http://www.cfps.co.uk/40106.htm) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.254.124 (talk) 13:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

40 106 received a repaint into green, much to everyone's surprise, so perhaps 20 141 was the last loco to loose its original green? 157.203.254.1 (talk) 09:02, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Adding of a Link

I want to add a link with photos of Class 20s in current operation in Direct Rail Services. The reason I want to add the link as the page has no links to the locomotive class in current operation with most of the photos on the page taken many many years ago when it was still British Rail. This is the link if you could add it - http://gjmrail.fpic.co.uk/c1607168.html GazzShadow (talk) 02:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point - I've added a link to the railfaneurope.net page for class 20's as it has lots of different images of liveries of the class 20s - green, large logo etc, it has DRS 20's as well.FengRail (talk) 04:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Good article

Don't know now you did it but this is a good article - with none of the flaws that usually infest BR related pages. Well done - you made me very happy because I didn't have to do any work! Great. FengRail (talk) 04:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Indeed a good article, note should be given however to the fact that they were schedualed for timetabled passenger services to Skegness and that their use wasn't limited to reliefs (etc), for reliefs are very different to schedualed passengers services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.3 (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

revert

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_20&diff=271147016&oldid=271119603

The great central railway website doesn't mention this yet and so is not a good reference.

Also if and when the change does occur please consider not removing the previous owners/operators - see WP:recentism and decide for yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FengRail (talk • contribs) 17:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Transfer Freight?

What exactly does transfer freight mean? I'm asking because this article is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing. Dinoboyaz (talk) 09:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

@Dinoboyaz: Freight trains that run from one marshalling yard to another; more broadly, trains that don't call at a goods station or other point where loading or unloading takes place. They don't generate revenue (other than in wagon mileage rates) but are nonetheless necessary for efficient working of goods traffic where not all trains are run from traffic source to traffic destination without remarshalling. So a goods train arriving at Ferme Park from the East Coast Main Line might have wagons bound for Hampshire or Surrey. A transfer freight would be run from Ferme Park to Feltham, where the wagons would then be marshalled into a train bound for Guildford or Eastleigh. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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Meaning of Ltd

Hiya. The article has a table of locomotive pictures, many with captions ending in Ltd; please could somebody explain why the Ltd is there, and what it means in this context? Presumably it is short for Limited, but that doesn't explain its significance to me, a lay man! I got no joy either, from the LTD article. Thanks. Trafford09 (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@Trafford09: I presume that you mean the three instances of "Class 20189 Ltd" in the "Preserved by" column of the Preservation table. These are not captions, they are the name of the company that presently owns the locomotive concerned (the entry at Companies House is here). The abbreviation "Ltd" is commonly used in the UK to indicate a private limited company. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:41, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I see now! Thanks so much, @Redrose64:, for explaining this, and giving the link to the entry at Companies House. I'd never imagined a company would be set up, to preserve a locomotive (but I'm glad it is so). Trafford09 (talk) 08:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Use on Western Region

At least one of these was used somewhere between Reading and Paddington, London in the late 1950s and/or early 1960s. There were at least four parallel railway tracks and the locomotive could be seen from the left window of the passenger train. I remember clearly seeing one of these in matt green livery with its cab nearer London than was the nose as the locomotive was so different in shape from diesel mechanical shunters. Quite an achievement to see one of them, which is why I remember it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.187.163.8 (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Liveries

Should there be a reference in the livery section to the class 20/9 Hunslet Barclay 'weedkiller' livery? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:30B0:C600:80D:30C:18A7:EA5E (talk) 17:02, 23 October 2020 (UTC)