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@194.81.49.250: Why do you keep removing the LGBT category? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

because there's no proof.
Pretty sure being crowned Miss Gay Indiana is sufficient... ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:37, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Not necessarily. If a straight guy that happened to do drag entered the competition and won they'd get the same title, wouldn't they? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.49.250 (talk) 16:51, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Uh... a straight guy would compete for Miss Gay Indiana? I don't care enough to keep going back and forth, so I'll let other editors weigh in. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Birth dateEdit

@Ratherbe2000: Do you have a source? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

  • I had it from the Drag Race Wiki, but these tweets from her are evidence.

https://twitter.com/BlairStClair/status/996036824316325889 https://twitter.com/blairstclair/status/864722254453587968?lang=en — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratherbe2000 (talkcontribs) 16:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Perhaps these should be added. Otherwise the claim is entirely unsourced. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Perry Meridian High SchoolEdit

Citation needed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:45, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Would it be okay to use the same article I sourced on the Perry Meridian High School page as evidence for Blair's attendance at the school? It's this one: https://www.nuvo.net/arts/indy-queen-chosen-for-rupaul-s-drag-race/article_8350b9ac-1c0b-11e8-8982-674c2d9b4525.html Conrad Thompson (talk) 00:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Source re: Billboard chartsEdit

NotabilityEdit

  Resolved

@John from Idegon: I'm not exactly sure how to overturn the last redirect discussion, but I guess I'll start here. Blair St. Clair has since released an album, which has charted, as well as multiple singles. She has received additional press coverage, and there is a standalone article for Call My Life. I vote to keep the article, and will post on the RPDR season 10 page for additional feedback. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:39, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, the same editor has reverted, so I'll mark this section as resolved. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

NameEdit

Curious what editors think of this request. @Armadillopteryx and Funcrunch: Pinging a couple editors who might be interested. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Not sure how this relates to this article? I don't see anything other than "Blair" and she/her pronouns listed here currently. If St. Clair didn't gain notability under her birth-assigned name and gender, then there's no reason to mention them. Funcrunch (talk) 15:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Funcrunch, Sorry for any confusion, seems some recent edits have been made. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Ah OK, I should have checked the article history first. The issue of drag and gender id/preferred pronouns can be complicated. Funcrunch (talk) 15:05, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
To clarify: While traditionally most drag queens are cisgender men, some are trans women or non-binary, so gender id and pronouns need to be checked individually. Not sure from the referenced tweet how St. Clair identifies, but it is clear she does not go by her legal name or he/him pronouns, so we should respect that here. Funcrunch (talk) 15:09, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Sure, and just in case editors would like some examples, see Jinkx Monsoon, Valentina (drag queen), and Yuhua Hamasaki. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
I'd say the present version of the article (no longer mentioning her birth name) is appropriate given this Tweet (and some of the replies, such as this one and especially this one). Armadillopteryxtalk 22:11, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

SortEdit

On a related note, we should discuss sorting. For most drag queens, we've sorted by first name because this is how they are most known and in many cases the last name of their stage name makes for awkward sorting (i.e., Detox Icunt). Currently, this article only mentions "Blair St. Clair". Is this no longer a stage name? Should we actually be using "St. Clair" as a last name and for sorting purposes? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:06, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

This is starting to approach a case where the performer does not use a drag name at all (e.g. Derrick Barry, Charlie Hides). Why not default sort all contestant articles as at Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants? Last year's discussion about sorting is still on the talk page there. Armadillopteryxtalk 22:11, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Armadillopteryx, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you suggesting we should sort by first name in all categories for articles about drag queens, or...? Above, I'm noting the standard of sorting draq queens by first name, but in this case, I'm wondering if "St. Clair" is now a "true" last name and not part of a stage name. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
It's a tough call since "St. Clair" is clearly not her legal last name, but she appears to have made it unambiguously clear that she wants it to be used as her last name both in and out of drag. I have no problem honoring that, especially since we have written documentation of that request (these Tweets). Others may feel differently. As for sorting by first name, I do think we ought to choose one method to use across the board, but I understand if people are loath to open up that can of worms again (or just now). Armadillopteryxtalk 16:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
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