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An advertisement indeedEdit

PLEASE SPECIFY WHY MARATHI NAME SHOULDN'T BE USED? AS KANNADA IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF KARNATAKA, MARATHI IS THE NATIVE LANGUAGE OF MAJORITY POPULATION OF BELGAUM. PLEASE KEEP MAHARASHTRA KARNATAKA BORDER DISPUTE ASIDE, ISN'T IT A RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO SPEAK IN THEIR MOTHER TONGUE. OR IS IT THAT ONCE U ARE A PART OF KARNATAKA YOU ARE BANNED TO SPEAK IN ANY OTHER LANGUAGE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.97.96.136 (talk) 07:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

This article seems completely biased and an advertisement insisting Karnataka's claims. I recommend NPOV which does justice to facts of both sides.

Whatever the claims are Belgaum is presently administered by Karnataka whether you like it or not and the Mahajan Commission which was set up (as demanded by Maharashtra against the wishes of Karnataka) did not agree with Maharashtra's contention on Belgaum.

This border issue is completely pointless. I don't see how the Maratha people's interests are not protected in Belgaum. Most people in Belgaum are descendants of both Kannada and Marathi speakers. So they have both cultures in them. Besides if Belgaum goes into Maharashtra it will probably merge with Kolhapur district. This would make it lose its importance as it would no longer be a district capital.

How could u think of this?Belgaum will retain its status of District capital,its quite obvious!Im sure it will prosper under Maharashtra's rule since Karnataka's step-motherly treatment is a big hurdle in development of Belgaum.Did u ever wonder why North Karnataka(whose major part deserves to be in Maharashtra)is under-developed???(mahawiki 10:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC))

What step motherly treatment?? That is your POV. Forget Karnataka. You will see such inequity all over India. Except for a handful of developed cities the rest of India regardless of which state is in shambles. What is the state of the border districts of MH itself? Why do we keep hearing calls for creation of Vidarbha from time to time.
North Karnataka is no exception this sort of inequity that exists not just in India but in developing countries all over the world. And Belgaum, come to think of it, is one of the more developed districts in North Karnataka. So what step motherly treatment are you talking about? Your argument does not hold water.
  • Did u ever wonder why North Karnataka(whose major part deserves to be in Maharashtra)...
It is not for you or me to decide to whom 'major part of N Ktaka or any other portion of India should belong. The constitution decides that. And the constitution decided long back(twice) that N Karnataka will belong to Karnataka. The MH in a bid to play cheap politics, decided to contest the constitutional decree. They demanded a review of the matter and the Mahajan commission was formed at their behest. The Mahajan commission did a detailed study of the entire issue and also other border issues and wrote a report.
The report unequivocally says that Belgaum will stay with Karnataka. It also recommended transfer of some districts like Sholapur from MH to K'taka. Transfer of some portions from K'taka to MH was also recommended. While Ktaka like a law abiding state agreed to comply with the recommendations, MH shamelessly went back on their word and refused to honour the verdict of the esteemed committe which incidentally was headed by a Supreme Court Chief Justice himself.
In the light of the above, the article is not an advertisement of anybody's views by any stretch of imagination nor is it a POV. So I am removing the tag


Cleanup tagEdit

The tag mentioned NPOV, cleanup reqd and advertisement. I agree that Cleanup is reqd. So if somebody can add that tag alone, please do it. I dont know how to add.

Mahajan commission reportEdit

There is no need to feel insecure about having the Mahajan commission report in the wiki page for Belgaum district. The report is very much a part of the history of the "so called struggle for Belgaum". Trying to hide or delete it only shows obfuscation of facts. When the chief ministers of the two states sit down to discuss this issue in Delhi, dont you think this report is going to be on the table?. wake up and smell the coffee.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Mahajan Report!Edit

Just because u bribed more to Mahajan doesnt mean that u will eat up Maharashtra's land.Ram Ram japna paraya maal apna!This wont do. U smell the dosa,Belgaon has to go with Maharashtra.I mean kudos to Karnataka where only 39% population speaks Kannadi. Well go to Mumbai and hardly anyone speaks marathi, same is true for Vidharbha which is anyway asking a separate state. Also coastal Maha speak Konkani\Malvani. In that respect Maharashtra has less than 30% Marathi speakers.

.In fact whole North Kannada region doesnt belong to K'taka.Vow!!Jai Kannada mathe!

NPOVEdit

Mahawiki, what do you mean by NPOV? Do you want me to write that

  • Belgaum is a part of MH?
  • The Mahajan commission ACCEPTED MH's demand for Belgaum city?
  • Maharashtra did NOT go back on its word to honour the Mahajan commission's report?
  • Belgaum is NOT a legal and constitutional part of Karnataka?
  • That the Belgaum Corporation was superseded by the Govt of Karnataka illegaly?
  • Karnataka govt butchered Marathis in Belgaum?
  • That Mahajan commission did not recommend exchange of villages between Kar and MH?
  • Karnataka govt bribed Justice Meherchand Mahajan?

Sorry, but if you want all the above trash to make it into WP, you will need to cite references. As of now you havent cited a single reference to back any of your claims. Your jingoism is childish, laughable and only matched by that of fundamentalist outfits across the globe. Wikipedia is not the place for your obsessive compulsive trolling. Take it someplace else. Sarvagnya 18:26, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

NPOVEdit

By NPOV i just mean that dont show Maharashtra in bad light.Write what all facts ,i dont mind.But dont just go thru the deccan herald.There's other side of story too.Frame a article in NPOV,dont project Maharashtra as villion.We are not doing anything deliberately to trouble.For we are victims too...I strongly recommend rewriting of border problem in real neutral point of view.Perhaps a non-marathi and non-kannadi editor shud do that..

I have cited a source if u see my edition. (mahawiki 18:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC))

3RREdit

I am not sure if you guys are aware about WP:3RR. You are involved in a dispute and the rules of wikipedia clearly forbid reverting more than 3 times in a day. Now, I propose that all of you cool down a bit. I am going to look at the article and then give my opinion. You are free to accept it or reject it - but if you revert further you will be banned. I will make some suggestions below soon.- Aksi_great (talk - review me) 18:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I have made changes at Belgaum. Please take a look at the border dispute section there. The sources are enough. I think the text now reads neutral, toned down an encyclopedia worthy. Please add more information citing references and not mentioning them in the external links. Take a look at Template:Cite web for citing websites and Template:Cite news to cite news articles. Remember to fill in as many fields as you can. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 19:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for interveningEdit

Dear Sir/Madam, I shall respect the rule which u put forth.I just have a problem with kind of language they have used about Maharashtra.They have projected my state as guilty and villanious.I just want that article to be written in neutral language not taking either's side.Let them include facts but not make any judgements. Sorry for inconvinence and hope Truth alone truimphs!

Jai Maharashtra (mahawiki 19:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC))

Sarvagnya's sources are rediculous!Edit

Sarvagnya is out of mind,I suppose.The Deccan Herald belongs to a Kannada newshouse which have no presence outside Karnataka.I request the authorities to please review all the links/citations mentioned by this guy and find out yourself how shamelessly this newspaper gives biased statement which cant be used as citations here atleast those 'which are defamatory to Maharashtra and judgemental'.Sarvagnya has also included some Kannada media news stories which needless to say are hillarious and have zero credibilty.I dont have problems with Newswindpress,Hindu but i request editors to review the content of citations and whats being included in article.I donno why this guy is allergic to TOI and Indian express.

If at all his citations and defamatory language against Maharashtra is allowed,I shall be present with citations from Maharashtra Times,Pudhari,Belgaon Tarun Bharat,Sakal and Loksatta. mahawiki 04:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Why are you hell bent on making a fool of yourself? For starters, someone who thinks Deccan Herald belongs to Vijaya Karnataka group very obviously knows nothing about Deccan Herald. And number two, the Deccan Herald citations were by User:Aksi and not by me. The citation I added is from newindpress. In your best interests, revert your vandalism now. Sarvagnya 05:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

We all know who made a fool of oneself whilst editing as an anon.Loser get a life!!mahawiki 05:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Btw i havent added any vandalism just reverted to the NPOV version that of aksi.I dont mind that references of DH until that biased POV is applied here.Deccan Herald's article are comic relief!I dont care which odd kannada news house it belongs to,but im sure with advent of TOI in Bangalore,DH has few takers!Think beyond it. Plz see the history,I have not added/modified anything to disrupt the NPOV.The new citation u included is aceepatble!But for god's sake dont bring funny citations like that of DH and kannada media! mahawiki 05:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

biased and sentences against Maharashtra were modifiedEdit

You are not entitled to pass ahn judgement about population of Marathis in Belgaum.Sentence which demean Maharashra or Belgaon movement will not be allowed at any cost.

mahawiki 05:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

as requested by Sarvagnya,the admin version of Border problem with a new citation (by sarvagnya) is retained.Article has NPOV.I request to retain NPOV.I shall not edit anything but anti-Mahrashtra in this article,which hopefully no one will post. Peace! mahawiki 10:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Aksi_great asked me to drop by and have a look. Are there still any problems? Please refrain fromt eh battleground mentality if possible. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 05:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi thanks for ur concern.Thankfully there's no war here since Kannad wikipedians have refrained from posting anti-Maharashtra statements.I shall give credit to Sarvagnya who stopped posting controversial statements.So here's peace until anyone of us change NPOV,which hopefully no one shall change.I hope u shall be available for help if such condition occurs. mahawiki 05:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

New Belgaum Border Dispute articleEdit

A new article - Belgaum border dispute - has been created to track information about this issue.

I suggest that in order to keep information cohesive and centralised, material related to this dispute from this article be moved to (and merged with) the Belgaum border dispute article.

This will also make it easier to maintain information, and will make it easier to link to from other related articles.

Achitnis 21:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Horrible TemplateEdit

Who added such a Horrible template to the article? And why? We can definitely wait until the template is improved. If no objection, I will remove it 3 days.--Scheibenzahl 17:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup and Verification RequiredEdit

Constant edits to add/remove Kannada and Marathi scripts. Lets keep the border dispute out of this and be as neutral as possible. Usage of Kannada or Marathi scripts is acceptable, but the offical name of the district is still "Belgaum" and not "Belgavi", "Belgaav" or "Belgao"

Also why are current professors from local colleges being added to the notable personalities section? A g v (talk) 04:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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