Talk:Barre (city), Vermont

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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Mikeblas in topic References needed

A few comments edit

Not being from Vermont, I won't make these changes myself, but I have a few comments:

First, the outside link to the actual Barre City website, describes that municipality either as Barre City (capitalized C indicating that is part of its proper name) or as the City of Barre (again capitalized C indicating that word is part of its proper name) therefore it would seem that here in this article and elsewhere in listings of municipalities pointing here, the word City must and should be added to the word Barre to accurately name it. The word Barre alone indicates the town of Barre and should be preferable, in my opinion, to using the single word for each and adding the parenthetical distinction.

Second, one of the opening statements in this article is contradictory in my opinion: QUOTE: Barre is a city in Washington County, Vermont, in the United States. The city is the largest town in the Micropolitan area of Barre. ENDQUOTE. How can the city be the largest town? Shouldn't the statement be rephrased to something more like: The city is the largest community..... or the largest population district. Having described it accurately as a city, do not then refer to it as a town, especially since there IS a town by that name, distinct from the city of that name.

Third, though this deals with a different community, it appears a similar, though reversed, situation exists for Rutland and Rutland Town, wherein the simple name Rutland indicates the city of that name while the full name of the town is Rutland Town (although noting that references exist to Center Rutland as well). Will some Vermonter please investigate and correct these listings and pages to accurately reflect the true full names of the municipalities.JackME 19:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

D. C. Jarvis edit

Was D. C. Jarvis from Barre (city), Vermont or Barre (town), Vermont? Badagnani 09:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

The town. Benjamin Scrīptum est - Fecī 16:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Barre-Northfield, Vermont - Bell Family Heritage edit

I thought I had the English language down cold! For the love of Mike, Jack's issues, in the minds of the wrong audience, might actually make mine seem like non-issues in comparison.

I am not an overbearing, monomaniac, but a humble genealogist from Connecticut on the quest of tracing Bell Family members who are one to three generations up from pure-blooded Indians from Canada, assumedly originating from the Bell Island. Should anyone of knowledge of the family with one such member, Jane Bell Verge, born in Northfield in the mid-1800s, and buried in Twin Mountain, NH - please reach out to my email address: rwhiting2@comcast.net. I would certainly appreciate your help. Thank you.

p/s - Editing staff: You will be in my prayers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.24.47.10 (talk) 14:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Bad photo? edit

Can we please get a better photo? That aerial photo is really grainy. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 09:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

WP Cities edit

Hey all, I'm the WikiProject Cities assessor of this article. If feedback is what you want and need, come to my talk page and give me a holler! --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 21:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Outgrowth from Barre Village edit

I do not remember the dates, but Barre City was originally a part Barre Town -- that is why it "is almost completely surrounded by Barre (town)".

My memory, from when I lived there, is that I was told that it 1st incorporated itself as a Village w/in Barre Town (date unknown), & later as a separate city (possibly in the early 1900's).

http://www.ci.barre.vt.us/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7B5F4D8CCF-A92A-4CC0-A69C-A38F9D4923A0%7D says that "just under four square miles of the more populated area of the town was carved out in 1895, and the City of Barre was created by the action of the voters and the charter ..."

http://www.virtualvermont.com/towns/barre.html#about refers to "the village of Barre within Barre Town", note lack of capitalisation of "village"; & does not mention actual incorporation or any dates.

http://www.virtualvermont.com/towns/barretown.html says "By the beginning of the 19th century, Barre had a half-dozen distinct villages, some of which are now part of the city of Barre when it was split off in 1894" -- note date discrepancy.

http://vermont-archives.org/govhistory/governance/Villages/gillies.htm mentions Barre in its list of lost villages, implying that is was once an incorporated Village.

In Vermont a Village is a special, possibly unique to that state, political subdivision w/in one or more, often rural, towns. Villages are formed to provide services to their residents that the voters in the town(s) would not approve. Plainfield Village, "merged into their respective towns" in 1985, spanned the the Plainfield-Marshfield town line. Typical examples of services provided by Villages are: police forces, water & sewer depts., paid fire depts.

Villages are an addition layer of government & their residents pay both town & village taxes, and therefore vote in both Town & Village Meetings. See http://vermont-archives.org/govhistory/governance/Villages/gillies.htm

In addition to expanding/correcting the history of Barre City, an article on Vermont Villages as "units of governance" should be added to Wikipedia.

206.180.156.70 (talk) 13:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

We already do — see Village (Vermont). Nyttend (talk) 13:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

"Fame" of Barre Granite Quarry edit

I strongly doubt the historical accuracy of the "fame" part of the following sentences:

"The fame of this vast deposit of granite, which some geologists say is 4 miles (6.4 km) long, 2 miles (3.2 km) wide and 10 miles (16 km) deep, soon spread to Europe and Canada. Large numbers of people migrated to Barre from Italy, Scotland, Spain, Scandinavia, Greece, Lebanon, Canada and a number of other countries."

Family history has it that on his arrival in the U.S., my great-grandfather was taken involuntarily to Barre and put to work on the granite quarry. He was trying to get to Philadelphia, where he had relatives. He didn't speak English, and was misdirected. Does anybody have any corroboration of this practice? This would provide a more believable explanation of the multicultural nature of the granite workers. Peterwshor (talk) 16:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Not to mention it also gives an explanation for the "radical, anarchist labor movement" Peterwshor (talk) 22:42, 19 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

References needed edit

I've again reverted an incomplete population update in this article. An unreferenced population figure was added to the history table without any reference; and the referenced 2019 estimate figure removed. This left the article with a visible referencing error. Further, the remaining population numbers in the prose were left as-is, as were density and population numbers in the infobox.

Changes to Wikipedia need to be referenced to be verifiable. -- Mikeblas (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply