Talk:Bahrain Centre for Human Rights

Protection

I've protected this article for 3 days. Please work out any content issues on this page rather than edit warring. — Scientizzle 16:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I see that this is simply the same editor POV-pushing over and over. Protection will be lifted; IP blocked. — Scientizzle 16:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing pro-government POV

@ User:Fistful of dynamite: Please take the time to change individual edits of mine which you disagree with rather than the mass undo. All of my edits have included sources. I have only removed things which are POV or unsourced (because of the controversial nature of the article). When you say something is a controversy, please provide a source which shows it is a controversy. i.e. Just because YOU think Alkhawaja's admiration of Khomeini is a controversy does not make it one. It is a mere fact but not a controversy. --Zayed1 (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Zayed, it looks like you have removed a lot of content which is sourced, and for no apparant reason. Your edits are likely to be reverted. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Zayed, thank you for your message. You state that that you’ve only removed information that is POV or unsourced, yet this explanation does not seem to account for the blanking of entire sections of the text. For instance, you have deleted any reference to the BCHR’s publishing of the OpenDemocracy article which states that Al Khawaja is an admirer of Ayatollah Khomeini. This is a sourced first hand reference, and it is not clear how it violates wikipedia’s POV policy, yet you provide no reason for its removal. This is only one example – there are many more throughout the article including the blanking of an entire subsections of sourced text such as the link with the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain and its activities.

Given that it is not immediately clear how much of your deletion of sourced content conforms to wikipedia’s POV policy, the onus is on you to provide an explanation for material you are blanking. I have therefore reverted the text to the previous edit by Kralizec!.

I appreciate that you may not find anything controversial in a human rights activist expressing admiration for Khomeini. Maybe its just a personal opinion and that in some human rights circles its considered nothing out of the ordinary. But I don't think so. Wikipedia's editing policy is its up to readers to make up their own minds and they should have the chance to do so. But I want to reach a consensus about the text and so if you don’t think there’s anything controversial then you’re welcome to move the subsection ‘Great Man’ Khomeini from the Controversies section to the Overview.

Fistful of dynamite (talk) 11:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

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Maryam Alkhawaja

REF: Edit 20 January 2012 by‎ Bahraini Activist 

I want to query the allegation that the Bahrain government may or may not be involved in an "anonymous defamatory campaign" against Nabeel Rajab and Maryam al Khawaja. Surely quoting "anonymous sources" in a posting on the BCHR website is inherently biased and of questionable origin? AKhani84 (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

1. The source is not BCHR (they simply get news from other websites and post it on theirs and there is a link which takes you to the original source). The source is FIDH reporting from the The Observatory (here).
2. It's clearly stated who said what.Bahraini Activist (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I take your point about the Observatory article, thanks for pointing that out. I still consider this piece to lack creditability and looks like speculation using “reliable” (and uncorroborated) sources. That type of citation could be used to make almost any claim. Simply put: It really makes the reading of the article seem extremely biased. AKhani84 (talk) 18:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I have to say that someone else have notified me in private about possible bias when I inserted the same info into Nabeel Rajab article. And we agreed to reword it to "In early May 2011, an anonymous smear campaign targeting Nabeel Rajab and Maryam Alkhawaja had been launched with the Bahraini authorities' active support" without mentioning anything about "reliable sources". Do you think this is a good solution? Bahraini Activist (talk) 19:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Award

Recently BCHR won one of the Freedom of Expression Awards by Index on Censorship [1]. Mohamed CJ ^(talk) 09:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced subsection

This had no source, and a whiff of original research about it. I'm putting it here, but would be fine with its reintroduction if cited.

You forgot to sign. Anyway, the paragraph seems to be either original research or copied from a Wikileaks cable. Either way it would have been removed. Mohamed CJ (talk) 09:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

In Bahrain

There seems to be an unsaid rivalry among the three main human rights groups in Bahrain, the Bahrain Human Rights Society, the Centre and the Bahrain Human Rights Watch Society. The groups often fail to back a cause being championed by the others. This has fragmented important campaigns such as work for fair legal proceedings for the Bahraini detainees at Guantanamo Bay, or otherwise work on the same issue separately. The Centre is largely viewed as taking a credible but largely oppositional stance, while the Bahrain Human Rights Society is seen as less confrontational with the government over issues, and the Bahrain Human Rights Watch Society seen as basically an unofficial government body GONGO (its members include members of the unelected Shura Council.

Official Name

What is the correct name? The official website uses the US spelling of "center" whereas other sites including wikipedia use the UK spelling of 'centre'. Below the logo 'centre' is used everywhere. Due to Bahrain's historic links with the UK it seems that the UK spelling is correct. Has a American English speaking Bahraini unknowingly confused matters at some later date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roger 8 Roger (talk • contribs) 22:43, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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