Talk:Babylon Governorate

DNA

Recent edits to this article and the Iraqi people article concerning the DNA analysis of bones of ancient Babylonians and living people in the area was not support by the citation to National Geographic that was provided. A search of National Geographic and other sources such as Science News, Science and Nature did not turn up any such report. I have deleted those paragraphs as unsupported. Please do not reinstate them until and unless an accurate supporting citation to a reliable published source is provided. In general the problem with attempted DNA analysis of ancient human bones is contamination. See, for example, (May 29, 2003) "Anthropologists cast doubt on human DNA evidence" Nature 423(6939): p.468. --Bejnar (talk) 02:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The DNA statement was originally added to the article with a 7 February 2007 edit by Skryinv, and the citation was provided by the same editor in a 7 March 2007 edit. I have checked Internet Archive and at the time that the citation was added it had no mention of the topic, and no mention of DNA, only one minor change has been made in the cited page since March 2007. There was no support for the proposition in the cited material. --Bejnar (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

In that time, the DNA statement was in the source and we discussed this issue somewhere in wikipedia, but it seems the authors in nationalgeographic.com edited their article. Not sure. Mussav (talk) 05:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

It is not true that the DNA statement was in the source at the time it was added. The citation provided on 7 March 2007 by Skryinv was http://java.nationalgeographic.com/studentatlas/clickup/mesopotamia.html. Checking Internet Archive shows that on 9 December 2006 that article was thus without any mention of this topic or DNA. Checking the Internet Archive index for this page here shows that the page was unchanged from 26 November 2006 through 10 September 2007 until the scope taken on 23 October 2007. In addition, none of the versions of that page from 15 May 2006 until today mention this topic or mention DNA. It may be true that this issue was discussed "somewhere in wikipedia", but I have been unable to find it. I did find this mention, no discussion, by Mussav at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iraq on 24 February 2008. There is also a tangential brief mention in an 11 March 2008 edit by Nabuchadnessar at Talk:Assyrian people/Archive 7. The National Geographic does have a Genographic Project. But I could find no report like the one suggested by these edits. --Bejnar (talk) 22:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying it. I really thought I read it in the source but it seems I read it here and thought I read the source... I don't think there is another conclusion. Thanks again for your hard work and you are really good. 11:57, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Mussav (talk)

English article should be moved to “Babylon Governorate”

The Iraqi crest and flag both describe the region as “Babylon” and not “Babil”. Babil is the Romanization of Arabic, and not the English word for Babylon. CanadianOntarian (talk) 14:55, 15 April 2023 (UTC)