Talk:Azincourt

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 89.64.25.112 in topic Development of the name

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When "Henry V"'s text gets uploaded to the William Shakespeare article, a reference to Act 4, Scene III should be sufficient -- it's consists of the quoted speech and nothing more. For now I thought it worthwhile to include it here. --PaulDrye

Changes by AntonioGramsci2011 at 12:01 on 26 November 2015‎ edit

The article was changed by AntonioGramsci2011 at 12:01 on 26 November 2015‎. Two changes were made:

  1. The photo caption that read 'Site of the battle of Agincourt' was changed to 'Site of the battle of Azincourt'
  2. The lead sentence was changed from 'Azincourt (...; historically, Agincourt ... in English)' to 'Azincourt (...; historically, Azincourt ... in English)'

The first change is incorrect. The common name of the battle in English is unquestionably Agincourt and this is WP:EN. The second change entirely defeats the purpose of the 'historically in English' phrase, which is to explain why (in English) the name of the battle is spelled differently to the commune it is clearly derived from.

I have therefore reverted the change. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 14:06, 26 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Development of the name edit

The discussion of the name is unsatisfactory. The introduction says "Azincourt (historically, Agincourt)", the "Etymology" section says "The toponym is attested as Aisincurt in 1175" (which sounds like this is the first mention). So the name was initially "Aisincurt", then "Agincourt" and then "Azincourt"? Not unthinkable, but deserve explicit mention. Specifically, sources/context for "Agincourt" is missing - was this maybe only used in England? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.198.218.209 (talk) 09:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

I second the sentiment. I suspect that the placename was pronounced with the lenis & voiced counterpart of the "whistled" s. If this is the case, it was always A(i)sincourt locally, but likely to be misheard as A(i)gincourt by the English. 89.64.25.112 (talk) 10:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Reply