Talk:Admission to practice law

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Klbrain in topic Merger proposal

It was a bad idea to move U.S.-specific content to Admission to the bar in the United States edit

User:Peyna moved practically the entire article on 1 June 2007. That was an incredibly awful idea. The U.S. is the only country that uses the term "admission to the bar," so there was no need to disambiguate to begin with! Now we have a huge mess which no one wants to take responsibility for cleaning up (myself included).

The better solution is that this article should be about "admission to the bar" in the United States and then there should be mutual "See also" links between this article and Call to the bar. That is the compromise which works well for many other situations such as with Ministry of Transport and Department of Transportation. --Coolcaesar (talk) 06:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Ineligibility for review process edit

Hello. I've removed this article's GA nomination, because—as a list article—it is ineligible to become a Good Article. This article is, undoubtedly, a list type article: it consists of a long list of countries with 1-3 topic-related sentences on each listitem. As you can see from the Good Article criteria, lists should instead be nominated for Featured List, if/when their editors believe they are ready. –Whitehorse1 08:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Australia edit

To become admitted as a solicitor and/or barrister in Australia, there are formal requirements which differ between individual states. As a prerequisite for all State jurisdictions, you must have completed a law degree (LLB) (or at least completed what is called priestley's eleven).

In Victoria and NSW you have the option of then taking either what is called 'articles' or taking a Post Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice (PGDLP) - as the two pathways to becoming admitted. In all other jurisdicaitons, a (PGDLP) is required as the pathway to admission. Some states, including South Australia, require you to undertake the specific PGDLP which is conducted through the South Australian Law Society.

'Articles' - a two year mentoring program where you work under supivision of a senior practitioner for two years and learn as you go.

'PGDLP' - a post graduate diploma which requires you to be lectured in, and undertake particular assignemnts in legal skills and basics of the law in general practice. The content of the course is prescribed by each State's law society.

Once you have completed the above, there will again be differing prescriptions in the application process. Essentially, you will need to make an application to the relevent State's Law Society (all States have a Law Society which governs admission and proffessional conduct) to become admitted as a solicitor. In South Australia, to become admitted as a barrister, it is a matter of ticking an extra box at admission, however in most other jursidcitions - a formal course in barrister skills is requried before you are elligible for admisison as a barrister.

The Australian States are all now party to new 'mutual recognition' legislation; which means if you are admitted in one state, you are elligible to be admitted in another (it is just a matter of making your intention known with the relevent State's law society). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.135.207 (talk) 01:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Typos? edit

I have noticed that someone other words then normal (lawyer) have been used, so I'll replace them with the normal (lawyer) to prevent confusion unless they have the definition both in the native language and the normal english term visible. "Peru"

"Lawyers (Abogados)"

Nevermind, I figured it out. -Nameless2 7:13, 9 april 2009 (GMT +02)

Citizenship edit

I noticed there was a [citation needed] tag in the intro stating that some jurisdictions require citizenship. I attempted to locate a citation of this, but the best I could manage is http://www.ncbex.org/assets/media_files/Comp-Guide/CompGuide.pdf which show that some states in the US require proof of citizenship OR documentation of current immigration status. I changed the wording of this line to reflect this and provided the reference. If someone can provide a reference to at least one jurisdiction in the world that requires citizenship, please provide the reference and revert the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.167.32.134 (talk) 20:40, 19 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I've corrected a small mistake regarding the requirements to practice as a lawyer in Germany. It does not not only require passing the second state exam, but a separate approval, which - for example - would be denied in case of severe debt or certain felonies, and requires, among others, a valid insurance against malpractice. 2001:638:607:205:0:0:0:30 (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Merger proposal edit

I propose that Call to the bar be merged into Admission to practice law. They are not identical, but they are sufficiently similar and overlapping that the content in the Call to the bar article can easily be included in the article on Admission to practice law. Much of the material is already duplicated in any event. --Legis (talk - contribs) 14:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Oppose, in the British and Irish system a barrister is not "admitted to practice law", and the vast majority of lawyers are not barristers and never will be. A barrister is a specialist advocate and is not even allowed to be instructed directly by clients. Moonraker (talk) 19:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oppose BigDwiki (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Closing, given the uncontested opposition and no support over more than a year. Klbrain (talk) 12:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
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