Talk:2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case
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| On 23 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case to 2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Requested move 7 July 2023 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. WP:SNOW consensus against. Proposed title is inaccurate (rape, not sexual assault), and editors established a consensus that the focus was on a child requiring an abortion. WP:TROUT User:Jax 0677 for the inaccurate name, at least. (non-admin closure) starship.paint (exalt) 00:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case → Gerson Fuentes sexual assault case – Conviction has been secured, eliminating the need for confidentiality, and a long name. Jax 0677 (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- No. Firstly, Fuentes was convicted of rape, not sexual assault. And secondly, the existing title summarises why the subject is notable, while the proposed one doesn't. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. The case is not notable due to the identity or activity of the rapist, but due to the actions of the states involved. BD2412 T 17:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per editor attempting to disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point if nothing else. Christ. — Trey Maturin™ 17:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Reply - Assume good faith. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. This case is notable as a poster-child for one side of the abortion debate in the USA. That has nothing to do with the name of the perpetrator, although there is no reason why that shouldn't be a redirect, as created by the nominator. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose This would be a deletion-worthy WP:NOTNEWS article if it wasn't for the intersection with the Roe v Wade repeal. The abortion angle is the one of lasting significance. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The importance of this article is the place in has in discussions about abortion changes in the United States, not who the perpetrator was. The rapist's name shouldn't be in the article title. He's not the headline here. Liz Read! Talk! 04:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per above, but I would support 2022 Indiana child abortion case per WP:CONCISE. 〜 Festucalex • talk 14:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Surely if we are to shorten the title it should be to 2022 Ohio child-rape case. The issue that made this notable was the law in Ohio. Indiana just happened to be the most convenient state that had a slightly less stringent law. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Phil Bridger: Surely the abortion was what gained the case nationwide attention, especially in light of Dobbs v. Jackson several days prior. 〜 Festucalex • talk 19:03, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- The fact that this caused controversy in Indiana, including investigation into the doctor, is also what makes this notable. I agree that the current title is a bit clunky, but I don't see a better one that doesn't exclude important information. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:20, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think I just need to leave this to Americans to decide. Attitudes to abortion are, along with lack of gun control laws, one of those thing about the US that leave most of the rest of the Western world dumbfounded. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Phil Bridger: I disagree. Wikipedia has enough American bias as it stands. I see no problem in introducing a little outside perspective into this. 〜 Festucalex • talk 19:54, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Surely if we are to shorten the title it should be to 2022 Ohio child-rape case. The issue that made this notable was the law in Ohio. Indiana just happened to be the most convenient state that had a slightly less stringent law. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose because the scope of the article is the rape exception in abortion law post-Dobbs, not the crime itself. Including the name of the perpetrator in the article title is beyond undue. That said, support keeping the Gerson Fuentes redirect to this page. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:34, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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There is a discussion at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard which may interest active editors on this article. Wes sideman (talk) 13:51, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 23 March 2024 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Speedily moved back from the undiscussed move from a consensus-based title. A new discussion can be opened if a new move is being proposed. BD2412 T 20:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
2022 Ohio child rape and Indiana abortion case → 2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case – Title "2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case" was agreed to over those without a dash between "child" and "rape". On a side note, the archive pages were not properly moved to a new location. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support and speedy close. 2022 Ohio child-rape and Indiana abortion case is the consensus title per a 2022 RM. The article was moved two days ago without discussion; this should simply be reverted, no new RM required. 162 etc. (talk) 17:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.