Talk:Nakhon Ratchasima shootings

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Criticism of media coverageEdit

There's been quite a bit of criticism of the media's coverage of the event, as well as the public's online reaction.

  1. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-broadcast-regulator-to-meet-with-tv-stations-over-siege-coverage/
  2. https://www.thaienquirer.com/7609/how-social-and-mainstream-media-failed-us-during-the-korat-mass-shooting/
  3. https://techsauce.co/news/social-comment-media-ban-channel-one

--Paul_012 (talk) 15:48, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

  •   Done --occono (talk) 19:15, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Category sortingEdit

Jim Michael, could you please direct me to a guideline that instructs editors of this "usual way"? Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:33, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't know whether or not it's written anywhere, but for as long as I can remember it's been the usual way to catsort articles about attacks which begin with a year. With this article, it means that in all the cats it is under Nakhon - with the exception of the city's cat, in which it is under 2020. Jim Michael (talk) 19:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Hmm. That does appear to be the case for terrorism crime categories, even if it seems strange to me. Obviously the place to enquire is elsewhere. That said, though, there doesn't seem to be reason to include 2020 in the article title here... --Paul_012 (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Article titleEdit

Nakhon Ratchasima shooting should be adequately precise, and more concise. Is there any reason this should be treated as a controversial move? --Paul_012 (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

If there haven't been any other notable shootings in NR, the year should be dropped from the title. What do you mean by the move being controversial? Jim Michael (talk) 23:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
AFAIK, no, there haven't. Sorry, that was a rather convoluted way of me asking whether a requested move discussion is needed. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

PerpetratorEdit

Regarding the perpetartor, Jakrapanth Thomma: which is his first name and which is his last name? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thai names follow the Western order of Given-name Surname. Thai people are customarily referred to by given name on subsequent mention (see MOS:GIVENNAME). So the given name Jakrapanth should be used. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:57, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, that's odd. I never heard of that. Thanks for the info! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Terminology - mass murder vs. spree killerEdit

Given the multiple locations, this facially should be categorized as a spree killing. Can't read the original language sources. Also, uncertain there would be a differentiation in the terminology. I'll be digging through the English stuff to see if anyone is defining it as a spree in English language sources. Bahb the Illuminated (talk) 12:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

It easily fits the description of both. Shooting people dead in multiple locations during a short space of time means it was a spree shooting & spree killing. The number of people shot dead in the mall means it was a mass shooting & mass murder. Jim Michael (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Jim is right. All of the above apply.— Preceding unsigned comment added by WhatHowWhy (talkcontribs)

MapEdit

There were 4 locations at which people were shot dead: a house, military camp, temple & mall. However, the map & text under it omit the house. Jim Michael (talk) 18:22, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

The way the Thai addressing system works makes it pretty much impossible to know where a certain address is physically located unless with local knowledge of the area. That said, though, from the subdistrict we can tell it's in the same area as the army camp. Maybe just change the label to cover both with the first marker. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:53, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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