Talk:2014 United States Grand Prix

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I know we are bound by sourced material, but I am so sure that Marussia will have Rossi race at least at this event (being his home event and has already been squandered out of two opportunities to race this season) that I included it as a default. However, it can be easily deleted or altered to another driver once Marussia does select its second driver. Twirlypen (talk) 06:22, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

So you know we're bound by sourced material, but you're just going to ignore that and do what you want? The onus is on you to source material you are going to add to the article, not on us to remove it when your baseless assumption turns out to be false. Hiding it doesn't somehow make that requirement disappear.

Add information when you have a source to back that fact. Anything else will be reverted. The³5₉ (Talk) 10:24, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

See your talk page. I was only trying to make it easy for others to edit once it the info became known. I apologize, I was only trying to help things along. Twirlypen (talk) 10:49, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Marussia entry

Reports have emerged regarding Marussia's financial status and possible inability to arrive in Austin or Sao Paulo. However, right now it's just very loud chatter. Marussia will likely not confirm (or deny) this until they have exhausted every option to acquire financial security. Until they verify this, please don't include speculation in the article. Twirlypen (talk) 01:52, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Or they'll confirm it the very next day. At least that was quick. Twirlypen (talk) 22:34, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Vettel

Vettel will use a completely new power unit. Since all 6 components will be replaced/be new parts, he will start from the pit lane regardless of qualifying position rather than incur a 5 or 10-place penalty. Vettel WILL practice in order for RBR to appropriately tune the car, however they will not attempt to run a qualifying lap, since his result will be meaningless. This will be in order to save mileage for the race itself and the remaining two events. Because of the sensibility of this decision, I have already included it on the qualifying table. I realize that another driver could incur a pit lane start penalty over the weekend and thus start behind Vettel, but movement among the table can easily be made if need be before it is revealed in the article. Twirlypen (talk) 21:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

All drivers have to set a time within 107% of the quickest lap during Q1 to qualify for the race, so qualifying result is not meaningless. If he doesn't even attempt to qualify it's up to the stewards to decide whether or not he can race. There's no guarantee they will allow him to race. So it wouldn't seem illogical he does just one lap in qualifying, quick enough to be within the 107% margin, to comply with the rules. Tvx1 (talk) 23:39, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Very good point. Though all I have read were quotes from Vettel himself, it sounds they might try and get steward disposition by setting good practice times. He was very keen on saving mileage as much as possible for these last three races. I doubt they (the stewards) will be eager to reduce the field even further since it's at 18 to begin with. Twirlypen (talk) 03:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Contrary to even my own expectancy, Vettel did exactly what I theorized. He set one time quick enough to be within the 107% mark. So, Twirlypen, as a point of advice, given that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia it is the general practice that we don't list results that will happen, but only those who have happened. Even in a hidden state. So, even though I know your edits were made in good faith and you certainly don't mean to harm Wikipedia, it would be preferable if you would not enter results into articles until they have actually occurred. Thanks, Tvx1 (talk) 18:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct. Well, I feel foolish now. I'll catch on soon enough! Twirlypen (talk) 22:31, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Bcschneider53 (talk · contribs) 00:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

I'll give this a look. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 00:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• Just a general note; this is the United States Grand Prix. Should we use American date formats and English? It seems 2017 New York City ePrix does this.
  • As far as I'm aware, it is the standard to write Formula One articles in British English owing to its European roots. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
• "leaving the sport with only nine entered teams, the lowest number since the 2005 Monaco Grand Prix." Didn't the 2005 USGP have only three? Or is this referring to the number of teams who ran throughout the weekend?
  • Actually, ten were entered for that race and three started. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Background

• "Drivers have agreed it is a worthwhile system that, however, requires refinement for further testing at subsequent Grands Prix before introduction in 2015." Should the tense be updated here? 2015 has already happened.
  •  Done MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
• "Force India team principal Bob Fernley said discussions about a boycott but it would only be performed as a final recourse." This sentence feels like its missing a couple of words after 'boycott'.
  • Added MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Practice and qualifying

• "Pérez used two set of soft tyres in the first session to ensure he made the second part of qualifying and took 11th." -> two sets
  • Fixed typo. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Race

• "Every driver, except for Vettel, Kvyat and Hülkenberg, started on soft compound tyres." Which compound did they start on then?
  • The medium compound tyres. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
• "Bottas gained momentum to pass Ricciarddo around the outside for fourth place." Extraneous d.
  • Removed. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
• "Kvyat made an error, allowing Räikkönen to pass him." I think some additional context could be helpful here.
  • Removed. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

That's all from me, really just a few prose issues. Well done, as usual. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 01:28, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

@Bcschneider53: Thanks for the review. I have made the adjustments and see the replies to the first two points you raised. MWright96 (talk) 07:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

@MWright96: Well done. Pass. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)