Talk:2013 United Nations Security Council election

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Sir Sputnik in topic Saudi won with 176 votes against 186 for Nigeria?

Saudi Arabia edit

"Saudi Arabia turns down UN Security Council seat" Parts of this article must be rewritten. [Soffredo]   14:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to drop the word "believed" from the part describing Saudi Arabia's decline as a first. The problem is I don't know how to properly cite my research without needing insert about seventy separate sources and without potentially running afoul of WP:SYNTH. What I did was that I compared the states elected in each election (according to Security Council Report here) to voting records on SC resolutions the following year. Given that every state elected, also voted on a resolution, we can conclude that no state has ever refused to accept a seat to which it was elected. Does anyone here have any suggestions on how to source that practically? Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Replacement edit

Will a replacement country be elected to fill Saudi Arabia's slot? What do the UN by-laws say? Abductive (reasoning) 15:31, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

It's not clear as it's never happened before (see my comment above). Most likely, if and when Saudi Arabia officially declines the seat, so far they have only done so in the press, the President of the General Assembly will propose some kind of replacement procedure to the Assembly, but what that might be remains open for debate. (See comments by UN spokesman Martin Nesirky on the subjecthere). Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:47, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
According to an article in the New York Times, the UN Security Council convene before without a full membership in 1950 when the USSR declined to sit at the council table, although it did not officially refuse to accept its seat. Perhaps this will be what Saudi Arabia will do. ~ Quacks Like a Duck (talk) 23:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Argentina shown on map as council member edit

As an IP just pointed out, Argentina is shown on the map when it probably should not be. Hopefully someone will fix this. Ratemonth (talk) 22:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

The map reflects Council membership in 2014, not states elected, therefore it includes the five states elected (maybe see above) this year, plus the five permanent members, and the five states elected last year, which includes Argentina. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:58, 26 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Jordan will replace Saudi Arabia" edit

Or so an "anonymous diplomat" claims, cited all across the press: [1]. Should this be added? --    17:02, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'd say no, unless it's made very clear that this is still speculative. It was less widely reported, but three weeks ago there were similar reports regarding Kuwait taking the seat which have since been debunked, not to mention the fact that as far as the UN is concerned, Saudi Arabia still haven't actually declined seat. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Saudi won with 176 votes against 186 for Nigeria? edit

How did Saudi Arabia win if they received less votes? I checked the source and the table is correct. Potatoswatter (talk) 05:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

For elections in odd numbered years, three seats are allocated to Africa and Asia-Pacific. This means that it's the three countries receiving the most of votes and a two-thirds majority that are elected. You'll note that further down in the table it says "required majority: 128". Since Saudi Arabia one more than 128 votes they were elected. Sir Sputnik (talk) 12:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)Reply