Talk:1929

Layout

I think the page layout for "year in topic" in some places where it is flagged in the box as on this page 1921, 1922 is better. I seek opinions before making them all the same.

In this case the by topic duplication would go from this page BozMo(talk)—Preceding undated comment added by BozMo (talk • contribs) 11:33, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Soviet-Chinese War

I was looking for information on the 1929 Soviet-Chinese Conflict. I found nothing in Russie, nothing in China, and nothing here. I decided to add a link here in hopes that someone knows about this conflict and will write the article. Kainaw 20:09, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Unknown dates

I'm pretty sure that the date of transfer from the Coolidge presidency to the Hoover presidency is known - Hoover was inaugurated on March 4, 1929.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Op47b (talk • contribs) 22:15, 17 February 2005 (UTC)

Format

[See: Talk:1950#Format. -Wikid77 02:12, 16 December 2006 (UTC)]

WP:YRS collaboration

To get started, I'm wondering how we want to organize this. I don't think going by month is going to work as we expand. Maybe we should start by picking out a few major events that kind of sum up the year? Also we might need sections for entertainment, literature, academia, science... Wrad (talk) 22:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

For reference, here is a map of europe at this time (see [File:EUROPE 1919-1929 POLITICAL 01.png] ) Wrad (talk) 22:35, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

May I suggest that the best way to do this may be to add cited bullet points to the article, grouping them by geographic area, and then going from there? Wrad (talk) 22:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe take a section you're interested in, cite everything you can, remove what isn't notable, expand on what is, and then turn the bullet points into a summary of events in that area. Wrad (talk) 23:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

We should make sure that where possible entries which are not notable for this page should be moved to the relevant Year in Topic and/or year in Country page.

I'm just digging around Category:1929 and subcats for now. -- Kendrick7^talk 23:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if we need all the separate headers. From what is in the categories, not much else happened in 1929 than what I've dug up other than football and a few elections. -- Kendrick7^talk 00:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I thought those region sections were new.... -- Kendrick7^talk 00:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

There's plenty more to be said about all sort of things, in my experience. The idea is to get this at least to the level of 1346. Wrad (talk) 00:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

How do we deal with deaths? I don't think the "9 non-English articles" standard will work. DerbyCountyinNZ 23:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand the question. Fork it out to 1929 in death would be my first instinct. -- Kendrick7^talk 00:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I kind of want to deal with that later. I think we'll have a better idea of what's notable after writing the summary. We'll probably trim it down to about 25 people or so and put the rest in a sub-article. Wrad (talk) 00:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Iraq

I tried rewording it again. Yes, Iraq did have a government during this period, in the same sense that Palestine and India did. It was just very much dependent on Britain. Wrad (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

OK. "Beginning of the end" is much better; the thesis of the ref is that control continued in one form or another until ~1941. -- Kendrick7^talk 01:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, good catch. Wrad (talk) 01:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Too many Europes

... in my opinion. Did the divide between East and West even exist before WWII? And I've never thought of Italy as "Central Europe" either. Not my area of expertise, but I think having one whole Europe section would be less confusing. -- Kendrick7^talk 04:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It was just my way of organizing things very roughly before doing the real organizing. We can make one big Europe. Makes more sense. Wrad (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to divide it back into east and west (but not central). These divisions are older than the middle ages, so don't worry. Wrad (talk) 20:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Zimbabwe

The word Zimbabwe is used in the side template but the country was called Southern Rhodesia in 1929. How should this problem be addressed?Flaviusvulso (talk) 08:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

That template seriously needs to be redesigned. Wrad (talk) 08:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Would it make more sense to have this as a footer template? Or just as see alsos or something? -- Kendrick7^talk 21:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I think so. I also think the foreign dates template needs to be a footer template. Wrad (talk) 22:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I've taken a crack at putting these onto subpages of subpages in the "see also" section. Maybe not the most elegant solution, but prettier. -- Kendrick7^talk 21:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Deaths

A quick go at making a top-10 list of deaths for this year (as requested):

• March 20 - Ferdinand Foch, French commander of Allied forces in World War I (b. 1851)
• April 4 - Karl Benz, German automotive pioneer (b. 1844)
• May 21 - Archibald Primrose, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (b. 1847)
• June 16 - Bramwell Booth, General of The Salvation Army (b. 1856)
• August 3 - Emil Berliner, German-born inventor (b. 1851)
• October 3 - Gustav Stresemann, Chancellor of Germany, recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize (b. 1878)
• October 28 - Bernhard von Bülow, Chancellor of Germany (b. 1849)
• November 6 - Prince Maximilian of Baden, Chancellor of Germany (b. 1867)
• December 20 - Émile Loubet, 8th President of France (b. 1838)
• December 29 - Wilhelm Maybach, German automobile designer (b. 1846)

It seems rather overloaded with Germans! DerbyCountyinNZ 03:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I would replace a couple Germans with:

• January 13 - Wyatt Earp, American gunfighter (b. 1848)
• April 24 - Caroline Rémy, French feminist (b. 1855)
• September 29 - Tanaka Giichi, 26th Prime Minister of Japan (b. 1863)

Remy is a very very internationally famous feminist. Trust me. I say we trade the two non-Nobel Chancellors and Maybach for these three. -- Wrad (talk) 05:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I know numbers ending in zero are magical and everything, but we can always do a top 13. BTW, I would mention explicitly that Berliner invented the phonograph. -- Kendrick7^talk 05:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not stuck on 10, but what's so special about German Chancellors? Wrad (talk) 05:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

As one of the protagonists in WWI and at the time one of the top half dozen or so most important countries in a global sense I thought the political leader of such a country would be more notable than almost anyone else. As a Nobel laureate I can't see any argument about Stresemann. von Bülow was chancellor for 9 years and was a major figure in the German "policy of aggrandizement in the years preceding World War One." Prince Maximilian was the chancellor who negotiated the armistice. On the whole they seem to be more internationally and historically significant than the 3 you mention, but then I think 10 is probably too few in any case. DerbyCountyinNZ 23:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, let's just keep what we've listed so far. Wrad (talk) 23:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Births

My list of 25 (after I got it down to 40 there was a lot of "How can I take that person out?":

• January 15 - Martin Luther King Jr., American civil rights leader, Nobel laureate (d. 1968)
• January 23 - John Charles Polanyi, Canadian chemist, Nobel laureate
• January 31 - Rudolf Mössbauer, German physicist, Nobel laureate
• February 15 - Graham Hill, English race car driver (d. 1975)
• March 23 - Sir Roger Bannister, British athlete
• April 5 - Ivar Giaever, Norwegian physicist, Nobel Prize laureate
• May 4 - Audrey Hepburn, Dutch actress (d. 1993)
• May 6 - Paul Lauterbur, American chemist, Nobel laureate
• June 3 - Werner Arber, Swiss microbiologist, Nobel laureate
• June 12 - Anne Frank, German-born diarist and Holocaust victim (d. 1945)
• July 1 - Gerald Edelman, American biologist, Nobel laureate
• July 2 - Imelda Marcos, First Lady of the Philippines
• July 9 - King Hassan II of Morocco (d. 1999)
• July 28 - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, American First Lady (d. 1994)
• August 24 - Yasser Arafat, Palestinian leader, Nobel laureate (d. 2004)
• September 5 - Bob Newhart, American comedian and actor
• September 10 - Arnold Palmer, American golfer
• September 15 - Murray Gell-Mann, American physicist, Nobel laureate
• September 25 - Barbara Walters, American journalist
• November 2 - Richard E. Taylor, American physicist, Nobel laureate
• November 7 - Eric R. Kandel, Austrian-born neuroscientist, Nobel laureate
• November 9 - Imre Kertesz, Hungarian writer, Nobel laureate
• November 12 - Grace Patricia Kelly, American actress and Princess of Monaco (d. 1982)
• November 30 - Dick Clark, American television entertainer
• December 9 - Bob Hawke, twenty-third Prime Minister of Australia

A lot of Nobel laureates born in 1929! Didn't leave a lot of room for others. Eventually had to keep on the basis of the following:

• Actor/actress: Academy Awards winner
• Sporting: Global sport and a major figure in the history of that sport
• State leader: Importance of country x length of leadership
• Newhart/Walters/Clark: Major figures in television history
• Frank/Marcos: Internationally iconic figures

BTW The format I follow in such lists (as in 2009 in 2008) is to link nothing apart from the name and the date and to not put in excess text such as a film or tv show the person is/was associated with. This is a summary page and only the minimum of detail should be added. Anything else is a single mouse-click away. Cheers, DerbyCountyinNZ 03:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

There should not be a quota of how many births or deaths per year - inevitably the number of significantly notable people that were born / die will vary from year to year. There are far too few people listed in the Births section - compare to other year articles. Qzm (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Audrey Hepburn

Audrey Heburn was born to a British (Irish father) and Dutch mother; she was never a Dutch citizen; she was a subject of the British Empire; --71.145.163.224 (talk) 06:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Template replacement articles

Without anyone mentioning it to me 1929 world leaders was prod'd and deleted. I've restored it. Does anyone have a better idea? I thought this served well as a centralized clearing house for the three related articles in the original template. -- Kendrick7^talk 21:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Amos and Andy

Wikipedia's own entry on the radio show states that it started before 1929. --71.145.163.224 (talk) 06:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Need for Summary section?

This article has a very long section at the beginning titled Summary. It doesn't seem consistent with Wikipedia:WikiProject Years. The sections should be Intro, Births, Deaths, Other. I propose that it is either removed, or shortened and added the article intro (see Intro Section), or moved to the end of the article (just before the references). It might also be a good idea to rename it Summary by Country. Maestroso simplo (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC) (talk · contribs · email)

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