Talk:0 Series Shinkansen

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Peter Horn in topic The use of "disp=sqbr"

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Technical Data on the 0 Series edit

http://documents.epfl.ch/users/a/al/allenbac/www/documents/Fich0203.pdf Fan Railer (talk) 01:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Herr Bullet Train. edit

The WP article is obnoxiously silent on the origins of the 0-series tech. Allegedly, the 0-series was designed by Siemens, continuing the WW2 tradition of german -> japanese technology transfer. 91.82.35.73 (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think it is rather the other way round. German Railways (Deutsche Bundesbahn) has borrowed heavily from both the Shinkansen bullet train and the French TGV when designing the first generation ICE train in the 1980ies. This is not to belittle the close contacts which exist between the German railways and the Japanese. --L.Willms (talk) 10:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Close up image of a 0 series Shinkansen train set should be in the article edit

 
This is the image in question

User DAJF removed the image with a close up view of the very head of a Shinkansen trainset which I happened to shoot during my visit to Japan in 1982. After his revert, there are again 7 more or less identical views of a Shinkansen trainset trying to show the whole length from a front side angle.

I think that if there exists an image showing the head section of the train in close up, this image should be in this article. So I argue for reverting DAJF's revert so that one image is there which shows a different view than those remaing 6 identical views.

Cheers, L.Willms (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Thanks for raising your concerns here. While you may think the various photos all look "more or less identical", the 1967 photo (shown below) I restored is unique in that it is the only image in the article we have that shows the train in its original form before the side fences were added to the pantographs (to reduce noise).
If, as you suggest, there is a need for a closeup of the nose of an 0 series train in the article, don't you think one of the following images would serve that purpose better? The 1982 photo you added is dominated by the person leaning on the train rather than focusing the train itself, so I don't really see what it would actually add to the article.
But if you are still determined to have your photo included in the article, I would recommend inserting it in the "16-car K Kodama sets" sub-section, since it shows set K47, one of the lengthened Kodama sets formed in the 1970s. --DAJF (talk) 14:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
I don't see this image as being dominated by the person, which is half in the shadow. It is dominated by the bulging nose of the end car (the power car?). It shows details of the nose which are not visible on the other images which you propose, like the lid on the dorsum of the nose and what seems to be the lever to open the round lid covering a coupling. Also details of the front windows. All this is possible because the image was taken standing on the platform right in front of the train, which gave a higher position. The person in the image testifies to this (BTW, it taken on platform 14/15 of Tokyo station, shortly before or after this other photo showing the passenger queue at the marks painted on the platform: File:Shinkansen-platform Tokyo-station Passengers-queuing-up-at-door-position.jpg). Besides, having a person in a photo always makes the image more lively.
Thanks for pointing out the special features of the image which I had replaced, and suggesting the proper subsection for this specific K47 set. Those 4 weeks which I spent in Japan in 1982 were the only times when I had closer contact with the Shinkansen trains (but traveling a lot, up to Tohoku Sendai in the North and to Hakata on the Southern Island Kyushu).
Concerning the resolution -- I am on the beginning of scanning in my old slides, and will scan also those 3 magazines again with a higher resolution, including this Shinkansen train nose, to be uploaded as a new version of the same file.
So, methinks that this image has its advantages which merit it being shown in this article.
Cheers, L.Willms (talk) 11:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

The use of "disp=sqbr" edit

Re 0 Series Shinkansen#History ..."were standard gauge ({{RailGauge|1435mm|disp=sqbr}} 1,435 mm sqbr 4 ft 8+12 in between the rails) → are 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+12 in) standard gauge between the rails)" This is an instance where the incorporation of "disp=sqbr" into the template(s) would have been useful. Peter Horn User talk 16:57, 1 May 2020 (UTC)Reply