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Robert Scott Lazar (/ləˈzɑːr/; born January 26, 1959) is an American physicist who claimed to have worked on reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology at a site called S-4 near the Area 51 Groom Lake operating location. Lazar said that the UFOs use gravity wave propulsion[1][2] and are powered by the (then unsynthesized) element 115. He claims to have read US government briefing documents that describe alien involvement in human affairs over the past 10,000 years. Lazar's claims resulted in bringing the secret Area 51 site to the attention of the public.

Bob Lazar
Robert Scott Lazar

(1959-01-26) January 26, 1959 (age 60)
  • Former film processor
  • Owner of United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies
Spouse(s)Joy White

Lazar remains a polarizing figure in the Ufology community, drawing a great deal of skepticism and accusations of fraud. Universities from which Lazar claimed to hold degrees show no record of him ever attending. He currently owns and runs a scientific supply company. In 1990 Lazar was convicted of a felony for installing surveillance equipment at a brothel.



Lazar is responsible for bringing the secret test site Area 51 to the attention of the general public.[3][4][5] In May 1989, Lazar appeared in an interview with investigative reporter George Knapp on Las Vegas TV station KLAS, under the pseudonym "Dennis" and with his face hidden, to discuss his purported employment at "S-4", a subsidiary facility he claimed exists near United States Air Force facility Area 51. He said the facility was adjacent to Papoose Lake, which is located south of the main Area 51 facility at Groom Lake, and included concealed aircraft hangars built into a mountainside. He said that he was involved in the reverse engineering of one of nine flying saucers. Lazar appeared unmasked and under his own name in a subsequent interview with Knapp in November.[6]

Groom Lake (left) and Papoose Lake (right)

Lazar claims that the propulsion of the studied vehicle was fueled by atomic element 115 (moscovium, first synthesized in 2003), and that this was used to generate gravity waves.[7][8] He also claims that he was given briefing documents describing the historical involvement with Earth for the past 10,000 years by extraterrestrial beings, Grey aliens, from a planet that orbited the twin binary star system Zeta Reticuli.[9][10]

Lazar's story garnered media attention and controversy, and has some supporters; however, the majority of the scientific community remains skeptical.[9][10] Lazar states to have worked as a scientist "in the Meson Physics facility" at the Los Alamos National Laboratory.[11] He has stated that his academic records were erased in an effort by authorities to discredit his story.[12][13]


Education and qualificationsEdit

Lazar graduated from high school in the bottom third of his class and completed one science course, chemistry.[14]

Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College in Los Angeles.

Lazar claims he has a master's degree in physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a master's degree in electronic technology from California Institute of Technology (Caltech). There are no records of Lazar attending either MIT or CalTech.[9] Based on Lazar's high school academics, acceptance to MIT would be exceptionally rare. MIT usually accepts students from the top percentile who have taken many science courses.[7] In support of this discrepancy, no professor has come forward with a memory of Lazar, he was not in a yearbook, and he could not remember the year he obtained his master's. Further, Lazar was not a member of a professional body. MIT has no process to expunge a student record.[14] A ufologist, Stanton Friedman, uses these discrepancies to conclude that Lazar does not have an advanced degree.

Lazar's was a self-employed film processor based on bankruptcy documents.[7]

Los AlamosEdit

Lazar is listed in a Los Alamos National Lab employee and contractor phone directory. Lazar was a technician, possibly for contractor Kirk Meyer.[7]

Legal problems in 1990Edit

In 1990, Lazar was arrested for aiding and abetting a prostitution ring. This was reduced to felony pandering, to which he pleaded guilty.[15][16][17] He was ordered to do 150 hours of community service, stay away from brothels, and undergo psychotherapy.[16][17]

During trial, Lazar stated his education as having degrees from MIT and Caltech, which questions the claim that he lied about his education getting into S-4.

United NuclearEdit

Lazar owns and operates United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies, which sells a variety of materials including radiation sensors, radioactive ores, non-radioactive elements such as pure silicon, powerful magnets, and other scientific equipment such as aerogel, as well as a variety of lab chemicals. In 2006, Lazar and his wife Joy White were charged with violating the Federal Hazardous Substances Act for shipping restricted chemicals across state lines. The charges stemmed from a 2003 raid on United Nuclear's business offices, where chemical sales records were examined.[18]

United Nuclear pled guilty to three criminal counts of introducing into interstate commerce, and aiding and abetting the introduction into interstate commerce, of banned hazardous substances. In 2007, United Nuclear was fined $7,500 for violating a law prohibiting the sale of chemicals and components used to make illegal fireworks.[19][20]

Desert Blast festivalEdit

Lazar and long-time friend Gene Huff run Desert Blast,[21] an annual festival in the Nevada desert for pyrotechnics enthusiasts.[21][22] Starting in 1987, but only formally named in 1991, the name was inspired by Desert Storm.[22] The festival features homemade explosives, rockets, jet-powered vehicles, and other pyrotechnics,[21][22] with the aim of emphasizing the fun aspect of chemistry and physics.[22]

In filmEdit

  • The 2018 feature-length documentary Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers focuses on Lazar's claims that he attempted reverse-engineering alien spacecraft for the United States military at a secret base near Area 51 called S-4. The documentary was made with Jeremy Corbell.


  1. ^ "Bob Lazar UFO Reverse Engineering Podcast". Retrieved 11 February 2018.
  2. ^ "Bob Lazar 2014". Retrieved 11 February 2018.
  3. ^ Nick Redfern (2015). Secret History. Visible Ink Press. p. 418.
  4. ^ "Area 51 Exhibit To Feature Russian Roswell UFO Artifact At National Atomic Testing Museum". HuffPost. 20 March 2012.
  5. ^ "Area 51: Secrets, Yes; Aliens, No". Live Science. 27 September 2012.
  6. ^ George Knapp (1 November 2014). "Out there". KNPR.
  7. ^ a b c d Stanton Friedman (2012). UFOs: Real Or Imagined?. Rosen Publishing. pp. 122–124.
  8. ^ "Bob Lazar: The Man Behind Element 115". 2005.
  9. ^ a b c Frank B. Salisbury (2010). A Scientist Brings Reason and Logic to Over 400 UFO Sightings in Utah's Uintah Basin. Cedar Fort, Inc. p. 146.
  10. ^ a b David Hambling (2016). Weapons Grade. Constable & Robinson. pp. 178–180.
  11. ^ "About Us". United Nuclear. Archived from the original on 10 July 2008. Retrieved 26 May 2016.
  12. ^ Arthur Goldwag (2009). Cults, Conspiracies, and Secret Societies. Vintage Books. p. 139.
  13. ^ "Believers Are Not Alone". Los Angeles Times. 20 March 1991.
  14. ^ a b Stanton Friedman (January 2011). "The Bob Lazar Fraud".
  15. ^ "Unusually Fanatical Observers". Los Angeles Times. 4 February 2003.
  16. ^ a b "SOURCE IN CHANNEL 8'S UFO SERIES PLEADS GUILTY TO PANDERING CHARGE". Las Vegas Review Journal. 19 June 1990. p. 8b.
  17. ^ a b "Judge Gives UFO "Witness" Lazar Probation on pandering charge". Las Vegas Review Journal. 21 August 1990. p. 2c.
  18. ^ "Don't Try This at Home". Wired. July 2006.
  19. ^ "New Mexico Company Fined, Ordered To Stop Selling Illegal Fireworks Components". U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. 20 July 2007.
  20. ^ "US v. United Nuclear Scientific Supplies, et al". United States Department of Justice. 2006.
  21. ^ a b c "Desert Blast". Popular Science. April 1996. pp. 76–79.
  22. ^ a b c d "Ka-Booom!!". Wired. 1 December 1994.

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