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Season's greetings, I just wanted ya'll to know that there's a discussion at the Cold War talk page that I have a feeling may interest you. Best, GPRamirez5 (talk) 17:12, 26 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, I invite you to edit and expand this article United States involvement in regime change in Latin America that would certainly benefit from more editors. Greetings. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 05:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

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On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

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I've started an RFC about the infobox contents at Communist Party of China please feel free to comment. Simonm223 (talk) 12:04, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination of Examination of Apollo Moon photographs for deletion (discussion here) edit

Hey so an article in your project (Examination of Apollo Moon photographs) (and one I believe relevant to your interests) has been nominated for AfD by yours truly. Article has had issues related to POV, lack of reliable sources, use of original research, and a lack of wikipedia-like style for at least a decade. These issues have not been fixed. All useful and wikipedia-relevant content has already been merged into Moon landing conspiracy theories. The fact that this article exists at all on wikipedia reduces the overall reputation of the wiki. All relevant photographs already exist on the other page, all relevant citations already exist there, etc. So if you'd like to contribute to that discussion, go ahead and check out --->Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Examination of Apollo Moon photographs (2nd nomination). Thanks!--Shibbolethink ( ) 20:35, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination of Portal:Cold War for deletion edit

 

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Romania: getting things straight edit

I have noticed an ambivalence of sorts in relation to Romania's status during the Cold War. While Socialist Romania lacks the "satellite state" tag in its article, it is still shown as such on certain maps. My latest large-scale project is aimed and dismantling once and for all the inaccurate notion that Romania was a Soviet satellite, and thus to bring clarity to this issue. I worked on a comprehensive paragraph on the Satellite state article which treats every aspect in detail and with all due sources. Let's take the characteristics of a satellite state one by one, and see why Romania didn't fit in any:

  • Political: One may argue that the Romanian Communist regime continued in its practices due to some Soviet pressure. Ofcourse, this notion fails to account for Stalinist and isolationist Albania at the time, and for a modern example, devoutly Communist Cuba. The longevity or harshness of a Communist regime in a country other than China isn't necessarily tied to Soviet influence, as was also Romania's case. In international affairs, most conclusively, Romania was the only Warsaw Pact country ever to vote against the Soviet Union in the UN Assembly, and sent athletes to the Soviet-boycotted 1984 Olympics. There is also the infamous denunciation of the Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.
  • Economic: Romania firmly rejected Soviet designs on its economy in 1964, and this was apparently seen as the moment when Romania declared its independence from the Soviets. Things escalated to such extent in 1967 a special provision was adopted by the Comecon at least in part due to Romania's actions, to prevent it from outright leaving or driving the alliance to an impasse. Romania was the only WP country who traded mostly with non-Communist states and was a member of both the IMF and the World Bank. Soviet economic leverage over Romania was almost non-exisent due to the country's oil and grain.
  • Military: There were no Soviet troops in Romania starting from 1958. From 1962, Romania also refused to take part in WP exercises or host them, didn't allow foreign troops on its territory, Soviet or otherwise.

As you can see, all aspects of satellite statehood do not hold up under scrutiny. The notion of Romania being a satellite after 1964 is moot. It's Warsaw Pact membership doesn't change this, if anything it makes it even more conclusive: Romania managed all this while remaining in the Pact! All that I said above is sourced, though not here. It's all in the paragraph I wrote in the Satellite state article. Based on all these facts, I urge the immediate modification of maps that portray Romania as Soviet-aligned, such as this (should paint Romania a different color and have text "Former USSR-aligned country (Romania, aligned until 1964)"). This map is a potent counter-example which accurately portrays the situation. This is another offender: again, paint Romania differently and add "USSR-aligned until 1964". Here too, Romania should be orange like Albania.

Edit: I forgot to address this, largely because I haven't written and sourced this argument in any actual article yet, but I preliminarily address it here: Some may wonder, if Romania was independent, why it stayed in the Pact to begin with? It wasn't Soviet coercion, at least not primarily. We can conclusively see this in the Pact's summit in December 1989, right after Malta. As late as then, Ceausescu - alone among his peers - argued for a strengthening of the Warsaw Pact. Truth be told, he was about as much a Communist as he was a nationalist. Why didn't Romania leave? Because Ceausescu wanted the Pact, he wanted Romania to be in it, and he wanted it to be strong against NATO. Source for this is here, might use it later. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:42, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Transylvania1916, I agree with your initiative. I wonder if this could be mentioned in Socialist Republic of Romania as well. It might be good to clarify Romania's status there. Super Ψ Dro 11:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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There have been attempts - but espionage and cold war have been subsumed into the larger... JarrahTree 13:16, 9 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

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