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Adjacent stations module for Metro Trains Melbourne edit

I made a WP:BOLD edit to the Adjacent stations module for Metro, simplifying it and bring it in line with the post-2018 plain blue signage by removing the thin white line on the infobox name formatting. See proposed change here.

Since the edit was reverted, I'm proposing it here for discussion. Any additional feedback would be valued. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 06:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't see any major difference between the two revisions. The code certainly looks cleaner with your revision. I don't personally mind either way. Pinging Purin128AL for their opinion. Steelkamp (talk) 10:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Flinders Street
PTV metropolitan and regional rail station
Flinders Street
PTV metropolitan and regional rail station
On the right is a direct comparison between the two versions. I agree the code does look cleaner in the newer version, however aesthetics wise I would want opinion from more users as without the white line the station name doesn't seem to be aligning centre vertically. If the consensus is to change it, we would also need to bring Module:Adjacent stations/Yarra Trams, Module:Adjacent stations/V/Line, and Module:Adjacent stations/PTV Bus to keep it consistent.
I also did a test on putting in line colours in the infobox, similar to recent platform signs. However it could be messy since some stations have many lines. Here is the page: Template:Melbourne Infobox station line. Purin128AL (talk) 11:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'll also note that the white underline in the current code is only visible in the mobile version of Wikipedia, hence the seeming non-difference between the desktop versions. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 05:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

List of NSW TrainLink railway stations edit

List of NSW TrainLink railway stations is still quite a mess honestly.

1. Following the consistency of List of Transwa railway stations, I think that Sydney Trains stations shared with NSW TrainLink should also be included in this list. I would simply just include all stations mentioned on the official Transport for NSW intercity trains network map [1], however objections in the past by other editors were that there were just simply too many stations to add.

1 continued. I disagree with this decision, however, there is some truth to this as the stations on Sydney's North Shore Line between Hornsby and Central via Gordon are only served by intercity trains occasionally, yet are still on the intercity map. Services on the Central Coast & Newcastle Line usually use the route via Strathfield/Epping. In addition, I do agree that there are a lot of stations to be added on the Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra Line as well (with very confusing stopping patterns as well to add), but I think that we should just add them all without question.

2. Would anyone object to the removal of station codes from the table? Fork99 (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you on all points. All NSW TrainLink stations should be included. Its in the title: "List of NSW TrainLink railway stations". List of V/Line railway stations and List of Transwa railway stations already do so. As for the station codes, I generally think station codes should be removed from all aspects of Wikipedia, including the station lists and the individual pages for each station. Station codes aren't meaningful to most people, and for a while now I have been removing station codes from all the Perth railway station articles.
As an aside, thanks for working on User:Fork99/List of Queensland Rail stations. I would help too if I had more time right now. Steelkamp (talk) 04:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requested move at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024 edit

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Sydney R-Class Tram#Requested move 4 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Replacement of Vicsig links edit

Hi all,

I've noticed some Vicsig links being marked for replacement recently. I thought it was worth mentioning that the site usually (not always) provides its sources for each entry in the location pages these days, so that can probably be substituted? For example, the Vicsig page for Yarraman station references Victorian Railways Weekly Notice No.50 of 1976; the weekly notice contents are generally available either in various magazines/journals which can be found online (e.g. Newsrail behind a paywall, Somersault perpetually up to two or three years prior) or Weekly Notice Extracts 1894 - 1994, 1996, Alan N. Jungwirth, Keith W. Lambert, Weekly Notice Productions, ISBN 0646300105. The main value in linking to Vicsig directly is that each location has a timeline of known events (and some pages have track diagrams for various eras), so providing a link under "External Links" or "Further Reading" might be worth considering. Otherwise, maybe someone could develop a citation template like the one we already have for Newsrail, that works for the Extracts book, and one for Somersault? That's well outside my skill set. Anothersignalman (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply