Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Winterthur Stadthaus.jpg

Winterthur City Hall edit

 
Original - The city hall of Winterthur by Gottfried Semper, true Tilt-shift photography
Reason
A famous building of a famous architect. The picture is one of very few optically shifted pictures available here. In this example shifting does not only correct perspective distortion. It allowed to choose a much closer point of view to avoid the bus station and power poles being on the image. Refer to the unshifted image to see what I mean.
Articles this image appears in
Winterthur, Gottfried Semper
Creator
Ikiwaner
  • Support as nominator --Ikiwaner (talk) 20:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support. I'm not convinced that optically shifted images are better than when correcting the distortion in a panorama. Both achieve the same results, but the panorama would tend to be sharper by virtue of being comprised of more frames. Getting closer to the subject obviously has side effects though, and the distortion isn't ideal. It also seems a touch overexposed, but a minor issue. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 21:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support. Happy to finally see a nomination for an architectural piece. Good composition and fortunate background, however as noted above, slightly overexposed and distorted, as well as lack of human scale make it a less easy decision. As EV for Gottfried Semper I think a frontal view would have been better both because the architecture would have been more prominent and the flag would have been less distracting. Elekhh (talk) 07:17, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose significant perspective distortion. Durova371 22:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose as the EV for this image seems only so-so. It has the most EV for the city hall itself, less so for the town as a whole. Similarly the article on Semper mentions the building as an example, but doesn't seem to ascribe a lot of importance to it or discuss it in depth. It sounds like the Opera House in Dresden is the more representative example of his work. And yeah the image is a little bright to me but still pretty decent. Fletcher (talk) 03:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that is insufficient EV for Semper, however I would argue that EV for Winterthur is sufficient given that the town hall is the politically most representative building of the city, and I imagine also one of the most important monuments. In this regard is advantageous that the image does capture the public space in front of it as well, and the presence of the flag is a plus too. There are precedents for town hall FPs which appear in an article about a city, such as Graz or Werdau. Elekhh (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree it does have EV; I only meant it's not especially strong, as a city should not be defined solely by its government. If there were no other criticisms to be made of it (such as those above) it would be tempting to support. Fletcher (talk) 02:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WB has a magenta tinge. Noodle snacks (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Based on what measurement? I don't see the tinge, but it's always a bit harder to tell with overexposed images. The only way to be sure about the accuracy of white balance is when you have a known white/grey object in the scene, and it doesn't look like there are any to me. The closest I could find was the umbrella in the background, and it seems to be in the region R=254 G=254 B=252 under sunlight. Only the tiniest deviation, and more of a yellow tinge than magenta, but probably close enough. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 10:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I just realised that the cross in the Swiss flag is a rather more obvious white. :-) I get R=241 G=238 B=246 which is slightly purple, but only slightly, and it isn't visibly tinged until significantly enhanced... Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • No measurement, it just looks purple to me. Noodle snacks (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Okay, cool.. But I don't really see it. Don't mean to sound condescending but would probably be best to phrase it as "I think that.." rather than state it as fact, as it seemed like you had measured it. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
            • Can it be just a monitor calibration issue? Elekhh (talk) 22:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]