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Foster Home/Sylvan Plantation edit

Hi, I have a question on edit you made to the above article [1]. Is there a specific reason you referred to it as a forced labour farm rather than a slave plantation? The underlying link to Plantation complexes in the Southern United States is obviously the ideal one, but I am curious as to whether there is some nuance in the current debate in US that I am unaware of that might of guided your choice of words. Skullcinema (talk) 14:43, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Good question. For decades, mainstream American culture propagated the myth that enslaved African Americans benefited from or even enjoyed their situation.[2] [3] Accounts by and about tour guides and docents at plantation museums show that they still get questions like "But the slaves were happy, weren't they?"[4] So "slave plantation", while hardly a euphemism, nevertheless fails at some level to convey what was happening on these farms. Use of the term "forced-labor"—generally along with "slave plantation", not instead of it—is meant to help Wikipedia articles be more explicit about their subject and thereby to more properly inform the reader. PRRfan (talk) 15:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, as stated I did wonder whether this was a US-specific form of words. I will note that from outside the US, unfortunately, a euphemism is pretty much what it looks like. The fact that the building was the centre of a large slave cotton farm is otherwise absent from the text and the term forced-labour often has much more benign connotations elsewhere. But as I guess most of the page's readers are likely to be from inside the US it may be more appropriate (but perhaps less accurate) to leave it as is. Skullcinema (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

No, I think you're right: "slave plantation" should be added. The point is not to avoid that description but to underline it. PRRfan (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

OK, have sorted it. Skullcinema (talk) 16:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Skidmore

For the record, the source I provided does mention the firm, under their common initialism SOM. ɱ (talk) 16:57, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Yep, I saw that later, after I'd ginned up a source that spelled it out. PRRfan (talk) 18:18, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Please don't undo edits solely based on edit summaries. ɱ (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

That's good policy; I'll try not to do so in the future. And thank you (and me) for doing the work requested by the cn tags, which have led to solid improvements to the article. PRRfan (talk) 18:18, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Rudolph Hall

Thanks and commendations for your work on improving this article, which had been bugging me for a little while. I'm glad someone with more time, more knowledge, more skill, or a combination of those was able to do the work. Onward! Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Just more time, I think. Thanks! PRRfan (talk) 19:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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I had to revert one of your edits because it created an unsourced paragraph, which we obviously can't have in a FA, especially one actively on the main page. You can do your changes again, as long as we don't lose any citations. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that. And nice work on the FA! PRRfan (talk) 16:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Norfolk and Western 611

I've added a lot of new information for the N&W 611 page, using my copy of the Norfolk and Western Class J: The Finest Steam Passenger Locomotive book. I was wondering if you can copy-edit it for me. 611fan2001 (talk) 23:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

I recently wrote a page about the locomotive's wreck in 1956. 611fan2001 (talk) 01:41, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

You're on fire! PRRfan (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! 😁 611fan2001 (talk) 02:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I even reworked the Powhatan Arrow page! 611fan2001 (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Union Bank of Delaware

Hello PRRfan since you created this article: coming across this image, I was wondering if that is the building. If positive, it could be added to the article and ond Wikidata. Thank you so much for your time. Lotje (talk) 15:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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The reversion of several edits reversed a lot of work, much of which, presumably, was not connected to the copyvio. Better would have been to have explicitly identified the text of concern. In any case, I have restored the edits in multiple chunks to allow more selective reversion, but have also made changes to fix what seemed to be the problem. PRRfan (talk) 16:55, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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you should

you should read the mos:jargon #### face and it said Do not change to "allision," see MOS:JARGON_ SO NEXT TIME LISTEN!2604:3D09:A984:F000:DC2C:AA35:5DB8:EAA1 (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

My dear anonymous editor, kindly take your concerns to the article's Talk page. PRRfan (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

I HAVE AND NO ONE CARES AND ARE YOU NOT LOOKING OR WHAT? JEAUS CHRIST 2604:3D09:A984:F000:5806:B586:1ABC:3DE8 (talk) 22:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

or at least we should ad a too technical box 2604:3D09:A984:F000:5806:B586:1ABC:3DE8 (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are expected to use a moderate tone in discussions. If you're not getting the results you like, perhaps you are not conducting your discussion in a manner that will build consensus around your point of view. May I suggest you have a look at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines? PRRfan (talk) 23:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)