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==Doubtful species==
No taxonomic database that I've looked at lists "Cyathea × confirmis" or "Cyathea confirmis". The International Plant Names Index has no entries for the specific epithet "confirmis". A Google Scholar search for "confirmis" Cyatheaceae produces no hits.
There is a species Cyathea confinis C.Chr., now Alsophila confinis (C.Chr.) R.M.Tryon, whose distribution is given as Haiti, which fits what is said in the article.
If there were a species originally named as "Cyathea × confirmis", the parents given in the article are now both in Alsophila, so it would need to be moved to that genus, but no such name exists.
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Having consulted the original source, I can confirm that the same spelling is used there. If the name is not found anywhere else then it's probably a typographical error as you suggest. In any case, I support the article's deletion if the name has no currency outside this brief mention. mgiganteus1 (talk) 13:01, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks for checking the original. I managed to get access to the full text of this article via JSTOR. It says "Cyathea confinis, a Haitian species known only from the type collection at Massif de la Hott ... is probably of hybrid origin." Possible parents are given as Alsophila hotteana (syn. Cyathea hotteana) and a Nephelea species, possibly Nephelea woodwardioides, which is a synonym of Cyathea woodwardioides = Alsophila woodwardioides. So the information available on Cyathea confinis fits exactly the information on "Cyathea × confirmis". I think it's better to delete than to move, given that we can't be 100% certain of the identity. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yep, that's fine by me. An alternative would be to redirect to the main Alsophila page where this information could be summarised under "Dubious species" or something like that. mgiganteus1 (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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