External link edit

Hearthealthguide, I just removed the link "Adaptogens and their effect on Cortisol and ACTH; blood tests included" that you you added to the article adrenocorticotropic hormone. It's not a good fit for Wikipedia: we want to link to reliable information from established authorities like medical journals rather than to one person's personal website. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. —Neil 16:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply


Neil, I added that link to justify my claims, that is, the line I added to the article adrenocorticotropic hormone: Adaptogens, especially Ashwagandha, may also help lower elevated ACTH levels, by normalizing endocrine system function.

Maybe my site isn't a medical journal but my claims are true since I speak from experience. I also have legit and verified lab results that support my claims.

I though that wikipedia is information sharing site and that my experience could help someone. External links from wikipedia have nofollow tag anyway. So, I won't have much use from it.

Now, I see that citation is needed. Should I add a link to citation or leave it as it is.


Hearthealthguide, thank for explaining that. I appreciate your desire to share information, but unfortunately your site won't work as a citation. On Wikipedia, citations have to be from reliable sources. The policy is fairly detailed, but the bottom line is that they have to be from well-known publications.

What you have to realize is that things aren't allowed in Wikipedia because they're true—they're allowed because they can be verified in reliable sources. So, as funny as it sounds, on Wikipedia it's irrelevant whether your claims are true; what matters is whether sources like scientific books and articles believe they are.—Neil 18:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for explaining it, Neal. I could understand the fact if they reject non-proven claims with lack of evidence but mine is backed up with experience and plenty of evidence. However, it is not your fault. You are just acting as wikipedia policy dictates.

If reliable source could verify my claims, we wouldn't have this problem. Is there any way I could do this? Maybe submit my informations to organization that would looked into it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.54.187 (talk) 18:47, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply


No problem—glad to help. I think you hit the nail on the head: first you have to convince some reliable sources of your ideas, and then Wikipedia can start considering them. Unfortunately, I honestly don't know how you could start getting your ideas researched.

And by the way, I should add: everything I told you is Wikipedia policy that I couldn't change if I wanted to, but I actually strongly agree with it. It's the only way a crazy project like this can work. Take care! —Neil 20:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply


About the reference: if it's a reference to your website, then, no, I'm afraid that won't work. If, on the other hand, you can find a reliable source written by someone else that supports the information you added, you're welcome to try adding it. Other editors (possibly including me) might disagree about the strength of the source, but you can certainly make the proposal. —Neil 21:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

September 2013 edit

  Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that the username you have chosen, "Hearthealthguide", seems to imply that you are editing on behalf of something other than yourself. Please note that you may not edit on behalf of a company, group, institution, product, or website which relates to the entity in question, and Wikipedia does not allow usernames that are promotional or accounts that are shared. If you are willing to use a personal account, please take a moment to create a new account or request a username change that represents only yourself as an individual. You should also read our Conflict of interest guideline and Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, and remember that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Alexf(talk) 11:24, 30 September 2013 (UTC)Reply