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Crime and Gangs Sections of Roanoke City Page. Thanks for your help.

Please read my question at the bottom of this page. I would like to delete this section but will be more than happy to rewrite it if you would like using unbiased sources. Also the City Changed its seal would you like me to email you the jpg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insightful.author (talk • contribs) 15:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

First on a seperate note: The City just reverted its seal to what it was at the beginning of the century. I can email it to you or try to upload it to the page. But I would like to resolve the below issue first.

-Crime Information-

I deleted the crime information section because it was biased, innacurate, and it has not been updated in at least 4 years. Whoever wrote the section wrote it to reflect poorly on the City of Roanoke. The sources they used were dubious at best and often used against intention of the authors of the source information. Please see my comments in italics.

CrimeThe studies of Dr. Isaac Van Patten, a criminologist from Radford University discovered that Roanoke’s rates of rape and aggravated assault were the highest in the state of Virginia in 2004. Roanoke had seen a total increase in violent crimes from 1985 until 2003, surpassing every Virginia city, only Portsmouth had seen a larger increase in crime. Van Patten is not suggesting that Roanoke's overall violent crime rate was the highest in the state over the 18-year period, just that it saw the largest total increase.[22] According to the FBI data, the crime rates in Roanoke for murder, rape, aggravated assault and motor vehicle theft all decreased from 2006 to 2007, while the rates of robberies and burglaries increased. In 2007, Roanoke was ranked as Virginia’s second most dangerous city; in 2008 the city was ranked as the fifth worst city in Virginia.[23]

To post op ed columns from local new media outlets can be grossly inaccurate. In reference to the FBI UCR data that the report sites, the UCR data website itself has a warning that it should not be used for ranking. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/word. The FBI Warns that this data should not be used to rank levels of danger due to potential reporting bias.

[22,23,24] - Is based upon a brief summary (by a newspaper) of an an academic paper by Dr. Van Patten, Dr. Van Paten's paper in unpublished comments highlighted a potential reporting bias among cities to under report crime in Virginia, resulting in aritificial inflation of crime rates in the cities that report accurately -vs- those who don't. If you read the newspaper article, the Roanoke Police Department contested the crime rates and the analysis.

[edit] GangsThe presence of genuine gang activity in Roanoke is a strongly debated subject. While some neighborhoods have gang-like organizations, many of which are engaged in drug distribution, like the Lincoln Terrace Posse and Villa Heights 1,[24] some law enforcement officers say that they are "mostly for show" as compared to the more militant and dangerous gangs that have a presence in multiple cities.[25]

Part of the argument in favor of acknowledging Roanoke's neighborhood groups as gangs comes from state politicians, like former attorney general Jerry Kilgore, part of it comes from the groups themselves who actively proclaim their legitimate existence as criminal and violent gangs in a DVD released for sale in the local area. In 2007, a DVD titled "Real Talk" appeared in Roanoke convenience stores depicting gang life in Roanoke. The 95-minute video includes references to the "Lincoln Terrace Posse" ("LTP"), "Villa Heights", and "Southwest" ("SW"). The local NAACP president, while outraged by the content of the DVD, disagreed that there were "full-fledged" gangs in Roanoke and felt that the presence of a camera played a big part in encouraging the behavior displayed.[26]

In regards to the gangs section, no other city or county in Virginia has any gangs information on wikipedia. This section should be deleted. This information is outdated since those alleged organizations are not published on any new information

Links [24 and 25] are broken and do not function. Link [26] is an oped piece produced by the same newspaper that wrote the above articles. If you follow the politics behind the articles you will notice that they are based upon a series that is selectively reporting on data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insightful.author (talk • contribs) 20:53, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm a NOVA (don't smirk) resident, and have never entered Roanoke itself, so I certainly wouldn't know. My objection was to your blanket removal of an entire section that is 1) standard for articles on US cities of this size 2) well-referenced, albeit outdated. In lieu of this, feel free to place an {{outdated}} tag there. GotR ^Talk 03:40, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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Good Morning, First I want to thank you for you response and understand that you are trying to moderate a fair and balanced entry. However I would really like to completely get rid of this section, but I am willing to potentially replace it if you would like with a more germaine and balanced submission. I strongly disagree with the unbiased nature of the entry since it is not well referenced. I make that assertion about referencing bias because all of the information is from a string of op-ed articles designed to circulate a theme of the City of Roanoke being very dangerous. It just doesn't give a fair representation of the City of Roanoke. Also I cannot stress enough that it is not fair that larger and more prosperous cities and counties in Virginia do not have Crime page. Wikipedia has become peoples first resource when researching a place. When I meet out of town visitors, I get tired of being asked about "crime, gangs and how dangerous the City of Roanoke is".... Being a resident of Roanoke who lived in NOVA, Hampton Roads and now Roanoke, I say with total certainity that Roanoke is safer. Please allow me to do something about this entry. Thanks.

Also would you like me to email you a new city seal so it can be added to the page. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insightful.author (talk • contribs) 14:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Weather box

I just realised that you accidentally overwrote the examples I used. I've removed them and restored the original. I got them from the documentation page and used them because I felt they were more neutral than picking a city with a lot of cold temperatures or hot temperatures. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't doubt you in terms of neutrality, but Winnipeg's extremes cover a much wider range than the hypothetical example used on the template documentation. GotR ^Talk 20:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Why not add it but as part of your comments? CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 09:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

There is currently a vote on deciding which colours should be used in the weatherbox. Ssbbplayer (talk) 15:11, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

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Is F WORD ok in wikipedia?

Hi, Thank you for editing my changes for "Haining City." That was my first time to try to edit a wikipedia article, and I am still a green hand. However, I have been wondering for a long time----Is it alright for you to say the F WORD in wikipedia? Even my inexpert editing disturbed you a lot (and I am sorry for that), I still don't think that is right. Thank you for reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmf2013 (talk • contribs) 22:18, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

No, what's more important now is that you fully understand that the "Trivia" you inserted is unacceptable by Wikipedia standards. GotR ^Talk 23:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

My series of reversions

These were all done in line with WP:BAN. I really don't care about the exact content, the point is the IP was confirmed and blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Instantnood, who is not just blocked, but outright banned from ever editing Wikipedia again. Therefore all his edits must be reverted. If his edits are allowed to stand, the ban has no meaning and force. oknazevad (talk) 04:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I understand WP:BAN makes no judgment as to the value (IMO some useless, and some actually justified reversions of the WP:POINTy edits of another user) of the content of the edits themselves. GotR ^Talk 04:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

IP addition of figures at List of cities in China by population‎

It appears this has been going on for a while.

Please see: User talk:Qwyrxian#Massive.2C unsourced figure modifications to articles

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

...or should it be centralized at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#List of cities in China by population? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)